Is Royal purple worth the extra $$?

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Originally Posted By: dave1251
You maybe on to something here. VOA's and used oil analysis of the Supertech and RP API nearly the same.


Nope. Not onto something. Just....
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I will never use Royal Purple because:

1) I hate the name.
2) I hate the color purple.
3) The purple dye is an unnecessary additive that the consumer pays for.
4) The API-rated stuff is expensive for what it is.
5) I have well-established trends for the vehicles I maintain and know that M1 is suitable for the OCI I follow.
6) Why bother when I can get oils such as M1 and PP for $25 or less at any Wal-Mart in the country knowing full well that either will protect my engine under any conceivable situation I could ever put it through.
 
All this talk almost makes me want to try Royal Purple, at least in my hard-on-oil 1MZ-FE (I'm serious, not being sarcastic).

If I did, how would I be able to tell if it outperforms the Mobil 1 I currently use?
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn
All this talk almost makes me want to try Royal Purple, at least in my hard-on-oil 1MZ-FE (I'm serious, not being sarcastic).

If I did, how would I be able to tell if it outperforms the Mobil 1 I currently use?


Good question. How's this for answer? It's based on my opinion and nothing else, and it doesn't involve a used oil analysis: Whatever oil is consumed the least during your OCI, costing the least amount of money to use during that OCI. As long as you use the same grade oil from both companies.
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
All this talk almost makes me want to try Royal Purple, at least in my hard-on-oil 1MZ-FE (I'm serious, not being sarcastic).

If I did, how would I be able to tell if it outperforms the Mobil 1 I currently use?


Do VOA's and used oil analysis for both oils, then compare data. Wear metals probably won't be representative for just one OCI, but TBN and viscosity loss would be things to look at.
 
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Dallas69
If the price was in line with other comparible oil I would have no problem with them but they want you to pay a bunch more for what?
I think it is funny that some folks here fall for the hype but thats what keeps there doors open


As I pointed out above ^^^ the price of RP actually is in line with the other brands. Stop looking at the world through Wal-Mart 5qt jug priced glasses. Many other ways to buy oil and even get it for less.


Nearly 10 bucks a quart everyday price for the API RP. This is comparable to Red Line. I could get AMSOIL Signature Series for quite a bit less.

But please continue I enjoy your mousetrap on how to jump thru hoops to get a comparable price on other oils.


Nearly 10 bucks a quart everyday price for the API RP. This is comparable to Red Line...and Mobil 1 / Mobil 1 Extended Performance, and Pennzoil, and Valvoline, and Castrol, and... Your point? As far as Amsoil goes their top of the line Signature Series in 5W20/5W30 is retailing right now for $11.10 a qt plus you have to pay shipping. Well, unless you are a dealer or preferred customer or whatever they call it. But wouldn't that be jumping through hurdles to get it?
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I have posted comparison prices for Mobil 1 / Pennzoil Platinum / Pennzoil Ultra/VVL/QS/etc...( using current prices at WM/PB/AZ/AAP/OR/etc... )MANY times that are the same $9-$10 per individual qt that RP API sells for in the same stores. It is obvious you haven't looked at qt prices in a parts store or even WM recently by your comments.

Just to show you( and others yet AGAIN )I will use your posted location and prove it using prices for 5W20( 5W30 when no 5W20 listed )synthetics as that is what I generally talk of when quoting prices. Note that I obviously have to use the online pricing as I live about as far away from your area as can be on the opposite coast. Not all oils will have online pricing so I can only compare what is available...

Maricopa, AZ( 85138 )

Wal-Mart: ( most oils are listed as in store only so no price given - these are what they showed with prices )
RP API = $7.86
Castrol Edge = $7.98
Valvoline Synpower = $7.74
Pennzoil Platinum = $7.74

Advance Auto Parts: ( none shown in AZ so used a local store )
RP AI = $9.79
Castrol Edge = $9.59
Mobil 1 Extended Performance = $9.59
M1 = $9.19
Pennzoil Platinum = $9.19
QS = $7.99
Valvoline Synpower = $9.19

Auto Zone:
RP API = $9.99
Castrol Edge = $9.79
Mobil 1 Extended Performance = $9.79
M1 = $9.19
Pennzoil Platinum = $9.19
QS = $8.19
Valvoline Synpower = $9.19

PepBoys:
RP API = $9.99
Castrol Edge = $9.99
Mobil 1 Extended Performance = $9.99
M1 = $9.29
Pennzoil Platinum = $9.19
Pennzoil Ultra = $9.79
Valvoline Synpower = $9.19

O'Rielly AP:
RP API = $9.79
Castrol Edge = $9.59
Mobil 1 Extended Performance = $11.99
M1 = $9.19
Pennzoil Platinum = $9.19
Valvoline Synpower = $9.19

There. 4 of the most known and common parts chains, plus the holy grail of oil to BITOG'ers in Wal-Mart, and the pricing at those locations for qt bottles. As I said RP is right there with the rest. Sometimes a hair more and sometimes a hair less. QS seems to be selling for a lot less than the others right now for some reason but otherwise they all are about the same.

As far as me jumping through hoops. The only place I do that is on this site trying to get people to open their eyes and stop all the misinformation about RP. I have many sources available to me for RP and none are difficult to use. Unless you think anything other than driving to Wal-Mart for your oil is jumping through hoops I spend no extra effort getting RP for a good price than most folks do when shopping.

Redline and Amsoil are not available in local parts stores( which is what I talked about )so they would require jumping through some of those oh so difficult hoops and hurdles you talk of.

I really could care less what others run for oil nor what they pay for it. Why so many others seem so worried about that is a mystery to me. Worry about yourself not what others do.

I just do not understand why so many on this site feel the need to beat up on RP all the time either. IF you don't like it don't use it. Why the need to constantly go after those who do and the product itself? yes, I know this thread was about RP and the price BUT usually it isn't and even in this thread people have gone beyond simple truthful answers to vendettas and agendas. It is baffling to me?

So much of what is said about RP here on BITOG is just untrue or exaggerated to extreme levels. I would think a site that is about oil, with so many self professed experts, that you wouldn't see all the myths and outright falsehoods again and again and again about RP that you do. Will never understand it.

RP being too expensive and/or priced way higher than the name brand synthetics is a complete and total myth. Proved above. It can even be had for the same or less than 5qt jug pricing at Wal-Mart in deals or through various sources. Saying you wouldn't use it because it is purple is just stupid I am sorry. At least all the claims that it has a ton of bad used oil analysis, which it does not, has stopped as has the bull hooey that it is conventional oil. 2 down and 2 to go.

I am out of this( honest I will try ). Not much more I can add and all further arguing about this will do is drag the OP's thread down. I have shown actual facts and provided that all important "proof" that so many always call for( yet conveniently ignore or forget to suit their bias ). I have done what I can to make sure people reading this who have an open mind can see RP is a great product and that it is no more expensive than the name brand oils.

Peace out.
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Like so much today that is pawned off as hate, your examples come nowhere near the description you gave. What you have described is either personal opinion or ignorance. Nothing more.

Using deliberately inflammatory language not rooted in reality does nothing to help your cause.


Just 7 posts after your pontification, a poster used "HATE" describing aspects of RP.

BOOM.
 
Looks back... Your term was "Despite all the venomous hate spewed out here against RP". Neither is his comment "venomous" nor does one person constitute "all the venomous hate".

Really? In a thread on the technical and material aspects of a motor oil, this is your point? Once again, it should be expected that emotional claims are made when technical merit is lacking.

Can you explain what your point is exactly? Is it that because some people don't like the product - for whatever reason - and may use the word "hate" in their description, that it is in reality a good product, because of the criticism?

Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Like so much today that is pawned off as hate, your examples come nowhere near the description you gave. What you have described is either personal opinion or ignorance. Nothing more.

Using deliberately inflammatory language not rooted in reality does nothing to help your cause.


Just 7 posts after your pontification, a poster used "HATE" describing aspects of RP.

BOOM.
 
Your cost argument is a house of cards. Even you admit that the vast majority of members here buy their oil in 5-quart jugs from Wal-Mart.

Even if I had a 6-quart sump, it is FAR more economical to buy 5-quart jugs in lieu of quarts.

24 X $7.86 (Your CHEAPEST Wal-Mart price) = 188.64
5, 5-quart jugs X $22.95 (My Wal-Mart price for M1) = $114.75

That's a savings of $73.89. Almost enough to buy another 3, 5-quart jugs.

How can you preach about us being honest when you can't even be honest with yourself?
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn
? Once again, it should be expected that emotional claims are made when technical merit is lacking.


Oh the gall to even TRY to lecture me on "technical merit" when discussing RP. That is just pathetic!

Like I said earlier: When I read "RP makes my '81 Yugo run rough" and "its junk oil" and "worthless" its all verbal garbage directed at RP. Mindless bashing.

Where is the "technical merit" in all the bashing that goes on here? Is there "technical merit" in "RP made my '81 Yugo run rough"?

NO, the vast vast majority of RP bashing originates from those have never even used the product nor do they offer one microscopic particle of proof or "technical merit" to even begin to back up their claims.

NHHEMI just provided you with detailed proof that RP is not overpriced at all, yet this lie has been perpetuated for YEARS here on this site if you want to look back. Anti-RP emotion has ruled here for years without even specks of "technical merit" to back it up. You need to reread the last ten years of RP bashing here before you even TRY to refute anything!
 
There is nothing wrong with their oil. I will not say it is the "best" (its not...even at pricepoints) but there is nothing wrong with it. It is good. OA show it is good. My gripe (if any) is that I don't care for Sodium in the addpack. While the "standard" pricing is not bad, I just do not see it discounted very often. Right now, the O'Reilly's "Discount" is 5qt and a K&N Filter for $44. Comparatively, $25 will get you 5qt of Havoline and a Bosch (I would exchange for a Wix) If I see it for $3-4 per quart, sure, why not? Yyes, Sodium add-packs have to be a $1 cheaper for me because NAPA/Supertech are available for that need.

Personally, I would rather run my $4-5ish/qt Havoline Syn... and when not available, M1 or Pennzoil Platinum / Pennzoil Ultra. Given the choice between free Castrol and $12/qt RP, I would take the RP.

Napa (Sale easily found for $3.50-$4)
http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/napasyn.htm

Royal Purple
www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/roylprp.htm

To me, they are nearly identical. Save for the price. Maybe RP has a slightly better base mix... but I expect it is within the margin of error... so...
 
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NHHEMI your prices are unreasonable. No one here (that I know of) goes into Walmart and buys single quarts of oil for their entire OCI. A 5 quart jug of Mobil 1 at my Walmart is $24.97 and a 5 quart jug of Royal Purple is $37.79

Price per quart:
Mobil 1: $4.99 a quart
Royal Purple: $7.56

I'm not buying purple oil just for sh!ts and giggles of being able to tell people my car has purple oil in it and add $13.00 unnecessarily for an oil change.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
NHHEMI your prices are unreasonable. No one here (that I know of) goes into Walmart and buys single quarts of oil the their entire OCI. A 5 quart jug of Mobil 1 at my Walmart is $24.97 and a 5 quart jug of Royal Purple is $37.79

Price per quart:
Mobil 1: $4.99 a quart
Royal Purple: $7.56

I'm not buying purple oil just for sh!ts and giggles of being able to tell people my car has purple oil in it and add $13.00 unnecessarily for an oil change.


Actually, I "might" if I am mixing viscosity for a vehicle with a 3.4l capacity and/or if there is a "clearance" quart laying around.
 
I go to Walmart anyway. I rarely need oil. I'm not going out of my way to purchase oil anywhere. Walmart is cheap and easy. If RP ever went on sale there, I'd consider it.
 
I just cannot understand how it's a 'lie' or 'perpetuating hate' when people say RP is more expensive than other oils that will serve their owners just as well for the oci used, while purchasing at an easy-to-drive-to location. RP is a little more expensive in quart bottles and a significant, $37 vs $28 (Mobil 1 Extended Performance /Castrol EDGE Extended Performance) when jugs are discussed. If I can get/need an extended oci oil for that M1 or Castrol price by just driving to WalMart, you can bet that's what I'm going to do.
That isn't hate at all.

Now, I wouldn't even waste my time responding to those that don't like the oil for reasons having nothing to do with its performance though. You'll just be spinning your wheels.
 
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I tried just about all the major oils, and the boutiques. RP is OK nothing great, certainly not worth the premium they typically charge. I'll stick with XOM & Shell products. Can you find RP on sale? Sometimes, not as much as XOM & Shell products, so its not worth the hunt, or the drive to get it if or when it is on sale. YMMV-RD
 
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