I helped my daughter with a bad vehicle situation

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That said, I'm a bit disappointed in Honda for the way this van just seems to be falling apart.
My son’s GFs Honda HRV they had for 3 months had a rattle from rear hatch and today as he was leaving, he couldn’t close the hatch. Found one of the bolts for the latch missing and the other was loose. Found the bolt and put some locktite red on them and tighten them up.
 
We had an '05 Odyssey with almost 160k miles and the original door mechanisms. They would frequently not fully close and re-open but that was user-fault, i.e. something the kids dropped that fell into the door channel. I learned to clean out the "channels" on both sides and spray silicone lubricant on the roller paths as well as the rollers themselves at the bottom and the ones on the side panels.
Interesting, but they should have engineered a vehicle for kids to be kid-resistant. It's a shame that simplicity is hard to find in family-haulers... in the style of, say, a 1998 Plymouth Voyager 4 cyl. Though even that has a timing belt.

As for financing a repair, many garages have access to something like the Goodyear Car Care credit card, with instant approval. It seems like everyone jumped into this Pilot with maybe 1/2 hour of thought and consideration.
 
For the billionth time, they didn't have the money to make the repairs on the van. I guess they were just supposed to walk out in the back yard and pick that money off the tree, right? And again, they rolled in $4k, not 5 or 7...
So what needed repair first? Triage. The brakes are warped but apparently still stopping okay, do those in a month. The timing belt interval has a safe buffer, do that in two months. Run the sliding door in manual mode. Ignore the CEL if it's not damaging the catalytic convertor, and you don't need to pass smog inspection. Don't eat out, don't go on road trips in this van while it needs repairs, don't give other adults Xmas presents, don't buy clothes, turn off the cable TV... I can find the money.
 
The van needed some sort of electronic oil switches (I don't even know WTH they are) replaced, the mechanic showed me the old ones. They were mounted internally in the engine The plugs were bad and had to be replaced and they were $28 a plug. The air and cabin filters were both bad and replaced. Then the mechanic told me about the TB being 20K overdue, the TSB (which had something to do with the rocker arms), and the brakes either needed work, or would need work soon. In all they were looking at about $3K in repairs. My concern was that even if they had the money for these repairs, who's to say there wasn't another expensive repair or multiple repairs lurking around the corner? With everything that was going wrong with the van in such a short period of time, I thought they would be better off moving on to another vehicle with fewer miles...like I said, either choice was bad, hopefully for them, getting the Pilot will end up being the least bad choice...
You're basically working on FUD, fear, uncertainty and dread. As others said, the TSB might not apply. There's always potential for more repairs down the road, but on average, they don't happen. I've spent large sums one year and then nothing happens for a couple more years. Those items like the brakes and belt are maintenance items just like the spark plugs. Air filters and cabin filters are almost DIY these days, not sure how bad the cabin filter are. Usually the reason why you repair instead of buy another car is that it costs money to go from one to another. The dealer has to have their cut along with all the transaction costs. Who's to really say you won't get some new problems on the lower mileage car? Basically on average, it's always cheaper to repair than to switch to another car. What would be worse is if their car got totaled, the insurance won't be able to pay off what they owe.
 
Yep you're all a bunch of Dave Ramseys...
It’s pretty clear that the Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree in this case…

They would have been infinitely better off plopping the full $2800 on a CC and using that 7 years loan monthly payment to pay off the CC. Just one of several ways already mentioned in this thread that would have been a much better financial decision.
 
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I remember my dad used to say when I'd call him to complain about paying for parts to repair a car or a car repair cost, "Son, so how much will a new car payment be?". That always made me see the light.
Our son's car was at a shop for a while with an issue that the mechanic had trouble diagnosing properly. I will give him credit, he didn't just launch the parts cannon at it 'cause if he did, based on the OBD codes, he could have gotten lucky. He's also a 1-man shop that only works on one brand of cars and the timing was pretty bad... My son dropped his car off and the following day, the guy got hit (hard) with Covid and his shop was closed for almost 3 weeks. Our daughter was away at college so our son drove her car and told the mechanic to take his time, get better, etc, etc.... Well, he did but also "looked" at the car 1-2 times a week (son has a remote start system that tells him when his car is started and for how long it ran) but our son still started getting worried that it "couldn't" be fixed and kept mentioning having to buy a new car. Now, he's an adult but I still told him "You're not buying a new/used car. Even if it costs $2000 to repair it, it's smarter financially to fix it."
 
There were no SUVs back then...
Ford Bronco started in '66. Dodge Ramcharger in '77.

Good on ya for helping out your daughter. Sounds like things are very tight for them, and some money management changes would do them good. Starbuck's? Smokers? Restaurants? There's several hundred a month to start.
 
Ford Bronco started in '66. Dodge Ramcharger in '77.

Good on ya for helping out your daughter. Sounds like things are very tight for them, and some money management changes would do them good. Starbuck's? Smokers? Restaurants? There's several hundred a month to start.
I think the Suburban came out in 1934.
 
I basically did the same thing with my 2011 Durango, though my repairs were a bit more spaced out. Year 1 it needed a new water pump, year 2 a brake booster, year 3 an AC compressor, year 4 an oil pan and windshield. Needing a new windshield was the final straw, traded it in (and rolled over $7,000 in negative equity) into a 2016 Chrysler 300. Sometimes it just gets to the point of “screw it, I’m done with this frickin thing!!!” and that’s okay.
 
I basically did the same thing with my 2011 Durango, though my repairs were a bit more spaced out. Year 1 it needed a new water pump, year 2 a brake booster, year 3 an AC compressor, year 4 an oil pan and windshield. Needing a new windshield was the final straw, traded it in (and rolled over $7,000 in negative equity) into a 2016 Chrysler 300. Sometimes it just gets to the point of “screw it, I’m done with this frickin thing!!!” and that’s okay.
Didn't you have insurance? I think glass coverage is in the $50 range or something like that. And a new windshield is easily $500-$1000 or more so you normally end up ahead on glass coverage. Something happens with glass for me at least once every 10 years, probably more like every 5.
 
At that age though, there are probably used motors in the junkyards or on eBay or maybe there are aftermarket ones or just buy them cheaper online directly from a dealer and find someone who is ok with installing parts you provide. I never have a problem finding mechanics that will do that. The ones that won't, I just keep looking. Some of them like it that way, they don't have to warranty the job afterwards and very rarely do I have a problem with any parts I buy.

I'm usually all in for Boneyard parts.
In this application, not really.
Odds are any motor you would have found in a boneyard would have been darn near used up from kids messing with the doors.
The doors on these things.....I've never dealt with such a PITA in my life.
On the first one we had, I did everything (without putting the big bucks in it) to make sure that the doors would work long enough to get it traded off.
Even though I usually sell privately, I wouldn't have foisted this issue off on my worst enemy.
I remember standing at the dealer watching them evaluate the van, with my hands in my pockets, with fingers crossed, saying my prayers, hoping that that d*** door would open correctly, so I could get rid of it.
Fortunately, we had no issues with the second one.
Given the scenario outlined here, I'd have just disconnected them and shut them by hand.
Even though I probably would never purchase another, if I did it would be an LX to avoid the power doors.
 
Ford Bronco started in '66. Dodge Ramcharger in '77.

Good on ya for helping out your daughter. Sounds like things are very tight for them, and some money management changes would do them good. Starbuck's? Smokers? Restaurants? There's several hundred a month to start.
No to all 3...
 
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