They did when it was three of us kids in a Taurus…
SUVs are a convenience, not a necessity.
It’s pretty clear that they are living above their means, and a (used? 73k miles) SUV requiring a 7 year loan isn’t helping.
I helped my daughter with a bad vehicle situation
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SUVs are a convenience, not a necessity.
It’s pretty clear that they are living above their means, and a (used? 73k miles) SUV requiring a 7 year loan isn’t helping.
And I don't care what you, or others think...I expect to get raked over the coals whenever I post something like this in here because a lot of people in this forum think they're experts on the these types of subjects...
Fixing your current vehicle is usually the most sensible financial option. Nothing you've told us suggests their Odyssey was a money pit.
Remember that "If nothing changes, nothing changes." If you buy an expensive vehicle there will be expenses. What are they going to do when the Pilot needs maintenance?
And for the last time now, they didn't have the money to make the repairs needed on the van. I don't know where you people think they were going to come up with the money for these repairs. If they don't have the money, they don't have the money...
Hopefully when the Pilot needs repairs, it won't have 15 different expensive things going wrong all at the same time...
Understood. Easier to get a car loan than a private loan to repair old clunker.
Still think this was a mistake. You should have given them your 423k Corolla and “made” them save, each month, the car payment that they now have to pay to someone else.
Nah, I need my Corolla...they will get through this...and you're entitled to think whatever you want...
Car falls apart due to neglect and the manufacturer gets the blame.
I think some fresh plastic with 12mo of 0% interest would have fixed the van. Cheaper than taking a bath on the trade while just pushing the maintenance back.
I think some fresh plastic with 12mo of 0% interest would have fixed the van. Cheaper than taking a bath on the trade while just pushing the maintenance back.
You apparently wanted to hear what the group thought. You heard what many of us thought and you disagree.
But perhaps you'll reflect on what the group has said. Groups can be very wise.
But perhaps you'll reflect on what the group has said. Groups can be very wise.
I know I am.
I know you wanted to hear it too, else you would not have posted this thread in the first place.Most of the world does just fine with two kids and ”just a car”.
The power door motors going out had nothing to do with owner neglect. The TSB required had nothing to do with owner neglect. The brakes being bad had nothing to do with owner neglect (normal wear and tear item). Honda's stupid design of using a timing belt instead of a chain had nothing to do with owner neglect, however, not having it changed did...so most of the problems with this van were not owner neglect...
Yep you're all a bunch of Dave Ramseys...
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Sounds like she is buying vehicles she can't afford to procure, let alone keep and operate.
You didnt state in OP what the cause of the CEL was. Doesnt seem that it was the timing belt. Also didnt mention the history of the brakes. I dont think either of these things happening at 129k is out of the ordinary.
Common knowledge, at least for the casual reader on BITOG, that these engines have timing belts. Nothing new or surprising there, lots of vehicles do. Chains require maintenance to be properly kept too. Wear needs to be assessed, woodruff keys used to get timing back, and they too break. Tensioners go bad, other stuff needs to be done.
Our 2014 odyssey has 70k (original brakes despite substantial in-town use). If hers has 129k, it must get a lot of highway use. Ours has daily use including both electronic sliding doors (a feature I didnt really want), and theyre both working fine. They can be overridden and operated manually too... Im concerned about the possibility of sludge in ours (I have a thread on that), but its use profile, not vehicle quality. Our friend's sienna that was bought at the same time as our odyssey has been to the dealer more times for issues including doors, water leaks, and other matters. Use takes its toll on stuff, especially if people arent careful.
A 7 year loan on a 6-7 year old vehicle that is closing in fast on its own need for a timing belt replacement is a fool's errand. Best to get rid of vanity, smart phones, and whatever else is causing fiscal problems, and drive something that is much more economical to operate and own.
Perhaps not that good but thank you anyway.
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Not sure about the power doors. A friend has a 2005 (IIRC) Odyssey with >280k, and one door motor (actually the cable) just failed, for the first time.
I know with ours, if its cold or icy, the doors will still try to operate... Good idea? Grit can get into the tracks. Honda's fault?
As mentioned above, they can be overridden. My wife is careful to do so if there's a chance of freeze...
What if they use timing chains ?
It has the same engine as the Odyssey and hence, the horrible timing belt design. Good chance the same TSB affects the Pilot as the Odyssey. The fuel economy in the Pilot will be worse.
I get that you're going to defend your daughter but on the other hand, it seems like you think everyone will fall in line behind you, cheering you on and supporting the criticisms you make (on every topic). That's not how internet forums work though !
We had an '05 Odyssey with almost 160k miles and the original door mechanisms. They would frequently not fully close and re-open but that was user-fault, i.e. something the kids dropped that fell into the door channel. I learned to clean out the "channels" on both sides and spray silicone lubricant on the roller paths as well as the rollers themselves at the bottom and the ones on the side panels.
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