My girlfriend has a 2012 kia Forte ex. NON gdi. I'm aware of the tsb and have been using the oem filters. I believe oem spec is for 7500 miles though. I've really been wanting to get a fram ultra with either m1 ep or Castrol extended to get closer to 15k miles. My girlfriend isn't good about letting me know when it needs changed so I want to be able to go for a while if it happens. Would you think there will be an issue with running a fram ultra instead of an oem?
Hyundai/kia oem oil filter tsb question
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I have two Hyundai Sonatas and do 15 000 OCI on Castrol EP and Mobil EP with a Fram Ultra with no problems at all. I have 10 UOA on the oil and everything is just fine.
I also took many pics with the valve cover off.
I also took many pics with the valve cover off.
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My girlfriend has a 2012 kia Forte ex. NON gdi. I'm aware of the tsb and have been using the oem filters. I believe oem spec is for 7500 miles though. I've really been wanting to get a fram ultra with either m1 ep or Castrol extended to get closer to 15k miles. My girlfriend isn't good about letting me know when it needs changed so I want to be able to go for a while if it happens. Would you think there will be an issue with running a fram ultra instead of an oem?
If she is the original owner, there is a 10yr/100,000mi drivetrain warranty to consider. Going beyond the 7500mi OCI might give KIA reason to reject any warranty claims. KIA issued the TSB regarding oil filter selection because of problems identified with some of the after-market filters. I have a 2015 KIA Optima and, for warranty reasons, will use KIA filters and OCIs specified in the Owner's Manual.
My girlfriend has a 2012 kia Forte ex. NON gdi. I'm aware of the tsb and have been using the oem filters. I believe oem spec is for 7500 miles though. I've really been wanting to get a fram ultra with either m1 ep or Castrol extended to get closer to 15k miles. My girlfriend isn't good about letting me know when it needs changed so I want to be able to go for a while if it happens. Would you think there will be an issue with running a fram ultra instead of an oem?
If she is the original owner, there is a 10yr/100,000mi drivetrain warranty to consider. Going beyond the 7500mi OCI might give KIA reason to reject any warranty claims. KIA issued the TSB regarding oil filter selection because of problems identified with some of the after-market filters. I have a 2015 KIA Optima and, for warranty reasons, will use KIA filters and OCIs specified in the Owner's Manual.
Funny, I have a Hyundia/Kia Korean Mann-Hummel (pn: 263 35503 that caused engine noise on my Nissan Rogue when I tried it. Filter "looks" great but I had excessive engine noise.
Ive found the Nissan Titan V8 Gonher filter and the PCX-004 Honda are excellent filters for those looking for a premium filter for the same Nissan/Honda/Hyundai/Subaru applications.
Note: Subaru use a higher bypass setting
Ive found the Nissan Titan V8 Gonher filter and the PCX-004 Honda are excellent filters for those looking for a premium filter for the same Nissan/Honda/Hyundai/Subaru applications.
Note: Subaru use a higher bypass setting
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This TSB just won't die. I really think it was most relevant to older KIA/Hyundia's and has not been a problem for years IMO. The OEM filters are very well built, no reason NOT to use them but certainly don't feel restricted to them if price or availability is a problem for you.
I would not exceed the manufacturer's OCI limit though with a warranty in play.
We have a 2012 and 2015 KIA in the immediate family, neither of them has ever had an OEM filter other than when they rolled off the line. Frams and Wix mostly but all have worked just fine and never an issue with any of them.
Do a search you'll find a host of people using aftermarket on them without issue.
I would not exceed the manufacturer's OCI limit though with a warranty in play.
We have a 2012 and 2015 KIA in the immediate family, neither of them has ever had an OEM filter other than when they rolled off the line. Frams and Wix mostly but all have worked just fine and never an issue with any of them.
Do a search you'll find a host of people using aftermarket on them without issue.
Yeah, the TSB came out when there were issues with some aftermarket filters (looking at your FRAM) causing some engine knocking, mainly in the BETA II motors. The "fix" for it was to put an OEM filter on it and it usually stopped the noise.
I used Wix or OEM on my '04 Elantra and never had any issues. I am sure a Fram Ultra would be fine. As said, if your still under the 10/100 warranty, I would stick with 7500 mile OCI.
I used Wix or OEM on my '04 Elantra and never had any issues. I am sure a Fram Ultra would be fine. As said, if your still under the 10/100 warranty, I would stick with 7500 mile OCI.
Actually severe service for Hyundai is 6 Months 3750 miles.. There is a fine line when it comes to the interpretation of severe service.. In the meantime Hyundai oem is the best way to go.
Hyundai does have chain tensioner noise on a few of their engines but it is only noise no real failures on them as far as i know. Hyundai engines are not always the quietest but they are long lasting and reliable for the most part
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.... Would you think there will be an issue with running a fram ultra instead of an oem?
No. However, the same being said for many other aftermarket filters too as confirmed by extensive anecdotal experiences posted here over a long period of time. And in this case that applies while under H/K warranty or not. As long as the filter is the correct application as designated by the filter manufacturer then you're covered by all warranties.
I would say it would be preferable to stick with a filter with a silicone adbv as used in the H/K oem while under vehicle warranty, just for their greater reliability and durability. That said, been many H/K vehicle anecdotes posted here using filters with nitrile adbvs on jobber tier filters used by quick lubes/indies. Some of those even downsized two application sizes from spec, and no noted issues. But diy aftermarket, stick with spec size/application silicone adbv filter.
.... Would you think there will be an issue with running a fram ultra instead of an oem?
No. However, the same being said for many other aftermarket filters too as confirmed by extensive anecdotal experiences posted here over a long period of time. And in this case that applies while under H/K warranty or not. As long as the filter is the correct application as designated by the filter manufacturer then you're covered by all warranties.
I would say it would be preferable to stick with a filter with a silicone adbv as used in the H/K oem while under vehicle warranty, just for their greater reliability and durability. That said, been many H/K vehicle anecdotes posted here using filters with nitrile adbvs on jobber tier filters used by quick lubes/indies. Some of those even downsized two application sizes from spec, and no noted issues. But diy aftermarket, stick with spec size/application silicone adbv filter.
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