I've had Hyundai's for decades. The only one that ever had a problem was my daughter's Sonata which ate an engine. So far 60K on the 'new' one and running strong.**** you had two Hyundais with no oil consumption? What the ass. Now you really just bragging lol (jk)
This is going to sound silly, but if you been using the Prolong since new, do you think that has something to do with the fact your car doesn't consume oil?
With Hyundai / Kia GDI engines I agree on the 3,500 mile OCI for mixed driving . I also like time limited OCI’s of 150 hours and / or 6 months OCI on the oil . Re-set trip “B” odometer to zero with a new oil fill and you can track hours on the new oil fill (I re-set trip “A” each time I fill up with gas but leave trip “B” alone). The 6 months / 3,500 OCI can be set in the maintenance dash setting … When ever I hit one of the 3 (hours , months , or miles on the oil fill) is when I change it as the oil is pretty well spent by then . My ‘17 Sonata 2.4L GDI engine can dirty up an oil with soot , fuel dilution and exhaust by products “like it invented the term” as it’s gotta be one of the dirtiest running GDI engines ever made .It's a Hyundai/Kia, so lowering OCI is a must. 3,500 miles if you are short tripper and 4,000ish+ if drive long distance highway. After a new engine warranty grace period (4,000-8000 miles, so you know it is holding together) I myself would dump the Hyundai filter. When the specs were placed online at Hyundai's own site it had horrible filtering specs. They then pulled it off line, I bet from the kick back of the horrible filtering specs. Don't get sucked into "heavy filter= good filter" because the Hyundai filter is "heavy filter= crap filtration filter" I have been running Fram Ultras and Fram Titanium's for years and have my last run of pink media /screened old style left. I will be going to Fram Endurance as soon as I am thru my stash. On my other family's cars I just us a Fram Ultra/new style and never look back.
As far as oil Valvoline Restore and Protect, that would be my first choice. I suggest to only use 5w-30 in your Hyundai as you stated. I am switching over to that with the family's cars when my stash oils are gone. In fact they are all getting a run of it their next oil change before their stashed oil is gone. Or I might buy 4 bottles of HPL EC to add to the stash oil. Yeh your engine is new, but keep it new. Hyundai/Kia GDI soot up their oil and I feel carbon up their rings far sooner the other branded DGIs. They are just one of the manufactures that is very hard on oil, across their whole car lineup. Or you could wait 12,000-24,000 miles and implement the Restore and Protect.
**** you had two Hyundais with no oil consumption? What the ass. Now you really just bragging lol (jk)
This is going to sound silly, but if you been using the Prolong since new, do you think that has something to do with the fact your car doesn't consume oil?
There should be zero need for VRP in that just recently replaced engine. It's a product intended to remove piston deposits. I'd much rather buy a high wear protection oil for a new engine, than try to remove something / prevent something, that hasn't arrived yet.I would continuously use Valvoline 5W-30 Restore and change it every 3,000-3,500 Max miles.
Valvoline says it's good to use from day one of a new motor. Those motors are well known for ring deposits and using oil from those deposits. Why wait until they're stuck? I would use it as a preventative but you do you. It's not Dexos approved, though but that doesn't matter w/Hyundai-Kia.There should be zero need for VRP in that just recently replaced engine. It's a product intended to remove piston deposits. I'd much rather buy a high wear protection oil for a new engine, than try to remove something / prevent something, that hasn't arrived yet.
Do you bring your newborn child home from the hospital nursery and immediately begin to add Simethicone to the baby girl's Similac baby formula, to prevent Flatulence many years from now?
With direct injection you want to change it early enough to keep fuel dilution down, so any decent synthetic at reasonable intervals would keep deposits from forming. Don't necessarily need something that was designed around being used for removing existing deposits. It's two different applications. But you do you.Valvoline says it's good to use from day one of a new motor. Those motors are well known for ring deposits and using oil from those deposits. Why wait until they're stuck? I would use it as a preventative but you do you. It's not Dexos approved, though but that doesn't matter w/Hyundai-Kia.
The 2.4s under extended lifetime warranty are of the TGDI variety. Our / any GDI-only in that time-frame are not covered.
Being Intuitive helps me at times. When I shopped Hyundai in October 2018, looking at new 2019 models, I told the salesman not to show me any Turbo-driven Santa Fe vehicles. So I suspect I will get longer engine life with my decision. How much longer before the bearings grenade mileage-wise?....... between 130k and 140k is what I sense.
Will I keep it that long?..... No. These two Hyunkias we currently own will be gone by the end of 2027. My Hyundai will have 70k by then and my wife's Kia about 55k. These-2 vehicles will be the first we've ever sold, premature to old age death. We've always been first and last owners of our vehicles. That will change around September 2027. We will narrow down to only having one vehicle and I suspect we will lease it. I'll be 76 then and no more mechanics, yard work....etc..... will happen beyond that time.
Sorry , but unless all highway miles it would be better to keep OCI’s at 4K miles max.5w-30. 5K intervals. OEM filter.
Why? Give me proof of how 1000K less on oil that clearly isn't going to be used up, will stop a mechanical (design) issue with the engine itself?Sorry , but unless all highway miles it would be better to keep OCI’s at 4K miles max.
My guess is that it would probably be ok, but I change the oil in my D.I. 2.0 Cadillac XT-4 at 3,500 miles because I get oil cheap on sale at NAPA (0W-20 synthetic store brand) and use AC Delco filters from the Rock at under 5 bucks. It costs give or take $30 for an oil change for me to DIY. If you are paying a shop I can see your point. I really don't think it's a bad design per se, but D.I. on an economy car combined with sometimes poor maintenance = fuel dilution, consumption and problems.Why? Give me proof of how 1000K less on oil that clearly isn't going to be used up, will stop a mechanical (design) issue with the engine itself?
My wife's 2013 Hyundai Sonata 2.4 used to get all city driving, like 5 kilometers to her work, often a couple kilometers at lunch hour and then 5 kilometers home. She was doing 5000km/3k mile oil changes which would take around 9 months. Oil was completely black within a few minutes of running after an oil change and it smelled like gas before hitting 3k. So I convinced her to do it at 3-4 months instead which slowly helped clean it up....My guess is that it would probably be ok, but I change the oil in my D.I. 2.0 Cadillac XT-4 at 3,500 miles because I get oil cheap on sale at NAPA (0W-20 synthetic store brand) and use AC Delco filters from the Rock at under 5 bucks. It costs give or take $30 for an oil change for me to DIY. If you are paying a shop I can see your point. I really don't think it's a bad design per se, but D.I. on an economy car combined with sometimes poor maintenance = fuel dilution, consumption and problems.
I didn't realize those were that bad even with maintenance. I think I would trade it in once they replaced the motor. FWIW my GM products have all been decent but they need oil and transmission service way before the book tells you to do it. The book calls for trans at 45,000 miles and the oil by using the monitor. I've already done the trans at 21,000 miles and the fluid was dark.My wife's 2013 Hyundai Sonata 2.4 used to get all city driving, like 5 kilometers to her work, often a couple kilometers at lunch hour and then 5 kilometers home. She was doing 5000km/3k mile oil changes which would take around 9 months. Oil was completely black within a few minutes of running after an oil change and it smelled like gas before hitting 3k. So I convinced her to do it at 3-4 months instead which slowly helped clean it up....
Then we moved to the country so it started getting mainly highway driving and we could go 3-4k miles or 4 months. I didn't really notice the fuel smell anymore. The engine still seized up around 90k miles because it's a Hyundai Theta 2. They inspected it for sludge and covered it under the recall.
Sticking with the same OCI and hoping this engine lasts at least 90k.
My personal truck and car are both GM but they're 20 years old and 41 years old. While I've personally done trans fluid at least every 50k miles or less on my vehicles, I've seen some go way longer without maintenance and somehow not blow up, even my truck may not have had any fluid changes before I did it at 200k miles but if it did it was once around or before 100k miles when my boss first bought it. It's made it to 270k miles so far but I change it every 30k to 50k miles since the first time I did it.I didn't realize those were that bad even with maintenance. I think I would trade it in once they replaced the motor. FWIW my GM products have all been decent but they need oil and transmission service way before the book tells you to do it. The book calls for trans at 45,000 miles and the oil by using the monitor. I've already done the trans at 21,000 miles and the fluid was dark.
check or replace the PCV may be badAnyone know if there is any reason one of these theta 2 engines would appear to have a bunch of blowby when pulling the oil cap off with the engine running? I just finished an oil change, drained Kirkland 5w30 at 3k miles and it hadn't used any.... however it blows a lot of air out the oil cap. My 270k mile gm ls engine in my truck doesn't do that at all.