How stable is your job?

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If you get your taxes done for one of the large companies like HR Block or a huge CPA firm in a large market area, many times it will be processed in India.

That's about as ironic as the Treasury Secretary cheating on his taxes.
 
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Originally Posted By: buster
I was laid off December 4th of 08 after 8 1/2 years. First job out of college. Several of my friends have been laid off. My dad is out of work and my father in-law as well. I have not seen things this bad in my lifetime. I am very concerned about the future of this country.


Time to head west to the great plains for a storm chasing vacation.
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Funny you mention that, I was just looking at some phot's of Arizona. I have a friend out there. My wife and I are thinking of taking a nice road trip some time soon. I need to see some real scenery.
 
Originally Posted By: MarkC
I think you're whining.......


Originally Posted By: MarkC
If I had insisted on being greedy, I could've charged each one $20 or $30, but then maybe half of them wouldn't have been able to come.


"Whining" as opposed to being preached at (again) from "he who must be seen as noble". Wow. You are a cake topper.
 
I thought my job was very stable, especially when the company still gave everyone 2% raises in January, but then on February 18th, right out of nowhere, the company announced they were cutting 1500 jobs in North America (10% of the staff) So after almost 8 years there, I got cut. For the past 17 years I have been doing color correction and retouching in Photoshop, mostly for magazine work. I'm still looking to use my Photoshop skills in my next job, but am also wondering if they could translate to something in another form of media such as the internet or television/movies? (if anyone knows, let me know!)

For now I'm not panicking, as I did get 6 months salary as a severance package, and have cut back big time on my spending so I hope to stretch that money longer than 6 months if needed. But I do hope to find something before then. I was talking with someone I used to work with who is the color manager (still with that same company) and he asked me if I'd be willing to freelance for them when things get busier, so I'm hoping that'll be my opportunity for a full time position when the economy picks up. The interesting part is that this company is another division of the one that just laid me off! (and the second interesting thing is that this company also laid me off after I worked there from 91-98!)

In the meantime, I'm entering every single contest I can find on the internet! Maybe I can make a living being a professional contest enterer! LOL!
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: MarkC
I think you're whining.......


Originally Posted By: MarkC
If I had insisted on being greedy, I could've charged each one $20 or $30, but then maybe half of them wouldn't have been able to come.


"Whining" as opposed to being preached at (again) from "he who must be seen as noble". Wow. You are a cake topper.


Throw a rock into a group, guess who screams?

And I'm certainly not "noble", if I were, I'd teach little kids for free.
 
Originally Posted By: MarkC

Throw a rock into a group, guess who screams?




That would be Pablo...

What did I win?
 
Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: MarkC

Throw a rock into a group, guess who screams?




That would be Pablo...

What did I win?


Ah, our fair and balanced moderator!
 
Originally Posted By: cousincletus
The Chamber of Commerce has a turd in charge of it. We need to restrict imports and get our manufacturing back if we want to get out of this mess.


The Chamber of Commerce will always have a turd in charge. They represent business with nothing else in mind. They are HUGE supporters of things like H1B Visas, outsourcing, "free" trade and the like. Why hire an American when a foreigner will do the work for less? And less? and even Less?
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: cousincletus
The Chamber of Commerce has a turd in charge of it. We need to restrict imports and get our manufacturing back if we want to get out of this mess.


The Chamber of Commerce will always have a turd in charge. They represent business with nothing else in mind. They are HUGE supporters of things like H1B Visas, outsourcing, "free" trade and the like. Why hire an American when a foreigner will do the work for less? And less? and even Less?
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Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: cousincletus
The Chamber of Commerce has a turd in charge of it. We need to restrict imports and get our manufacturing back if we want to get out of this mess.


The Chamber of Commerce will always have a turd in charge. They represent business with nothing else in mind. They are HUGE supporters of things like H1B Visas, outsourcing, "free" trade and the like. Why hire an American when a foreigner will do the work for less? And less? and even Less?
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https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/ceos-steal-from-your-401-k.103193/

Guys - not every business is like this. I rest my case.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: MarkC

Throw a rock into a group, guess who screams?


Each time I post, guess who responds?


Somebody has to top your cake.
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I was on H1B in the past, so let me give you a bit of my experience:

If you think it is tough for an American to find a job, guess what, it is 100x harder for the ones with H1B to get one.

Most responsible and doing well companies do not hire H1B, or at least limited it to those with master or phd degree. The reason being that these H1B holder are not in it for the salary, but for the green card that they can get through the program. These companies do pay the same wages between H1B and local citizens, and they have no problem hiring the higher quality workers (mostly more experienced American or H1B turned Americans) with better pay.

Now if there is a layoff in the company, all the H1B as well as the H1B's green card application will get into trouble. These people will leave for a more stable company, despite being lower paid, longer hours, and have to put up with [censored], to get the H1B and green card going smoothly. Companies like HP and Intel rely on very few H1B employees because of the uncertainty, and the risk that they will bring the trade secret along to the next company.

Who benefit the most? Those smaller and poorly run businesses that cannot hire any one because of low pay, bad management, in the wrong business, etc that should have gone out of business in the first place. My H1B years were spent on these places and you are there running the company because your boss / owner is so incompetent. Imagine buying used monitor that other companies scraped because your own monitor is barely visible (burnt out) by the dozen, running out of toilet paper and phone services because they are not paying the bill on time, and a GM that got fired because of cooking the book to boost his bonus.

The other type of companies that benefit from the H1B program are the Indian software consulting companies. Last year or two they submitted multiple applications for the same person and overload the H1B system, and wasted lots of approval quotas. Many companies were forced to contract out to these guys because they end up getting 60%+ of the quotas when their own employees couldn't get the visa and had to quit or go back to school. One of my co-worker who graduate from a US college couldn't get a VISA to stay and we have to switch him to part time, and he was forced to go for a master degree.

Of course, there is a new type of H1B employees that aren't interested in staying in the US for long because of the reduced opportunities recently and the booming economy back home (China, India, Philippine, Korea, etc) that they are here to gain work experience before going back to be a manager back home. US have been squeezing the H1B program to green card applications so much, that 1/2 of them have to go back at the end of 6 years. I have a few friends who think they got cheated by the US system, that they work for a low salary, for a bad boss, and in the end couldn't get a green card in return for all the [censored]. If you think the American workers got the shaft, then those H1Bers got it even worse.

Not here to start a political debate, just telling what I experienced 1st hand.
 
Good to hear Panda.

It's just the insistence by some organizations to push for all these VISAs, citing lack of employees, when we're closing in on 10% (official
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Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: cousincletus
The Chamber of Commerce has a turd in charge of it. We need to restrict imports and get our manufacturing back if we want to get out of this mess.


The Chamber of Commerce will always have a turd in charge. They represent business with nothing else in mind. They are HUGE supporters of things like H1B Visas, outsourcing, "free" trade and the like. Why hire an American when a foreigner will do the work for less? And less? and even Less?
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Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Good to hear Panda.

It's just the insistence by some organizations to push for all these VISAs, citing lack of employees, when we're closing in on 10% (official
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I completely agree with Panda, but it's possible that the unemployment rate is high because of structural unemployment. While there may be workers out there who are willing to work, the industries may have changed and the workers are lacking the skills needed for those jobs. Therefore, employers have to turn elsewhere to fill the vacancies.
 
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Good to hear Panda.

It's just the insistence by some organizations to push for all these VISAs, citing lack of employees, when we're closing in on 10% (official
smirk2.gif
) unemployment rate.

I completely agree with Panda, but it's possible that the unemployment rate is high because of structural unemployment. While there may be workers out there who are willing to work, the industries may have changed and the workers are lacking the skills needed for those jobs. Therefore, employers have to turn elsewhere to fill the vacancies.


If this were the case, the newspapers would be filled with employers seeking people that they cannot find, not looking elsewhere FIRST.

Doesn't flush.
 
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