New Truck, Short Trips, GDI, Need Advice

[CKN]

yes…. i do it all the time on brand new silverado 1500’s. straight to 5w-30 at 1500 miles.

That's really idiotic then-especially with the lifter issues on the 5.3s.

 

[BrendanC]

That's really idiotic then-especially with the lifter issues on the 5.3s.

to date zero LT based engine failures. well over 3 million combined miles on them. anyway, are you the OP? didn’t think so. OP was talking about running 0w-30. not quite what is specified either.

 

[21_6.7f450]

Brendan,
Sorry the didn't get seen. I thought you would have seen it as a joke.

 

[Thermo1223]

i do it on brand new vehicles that spec 0w-20. dealer will not take a UOA.

You sure about that? I bet for $20k repair bill under warranty they might.

 

[BrendanC]

You sure about that? I bet for $20k repair bill under warranty they might.

again, never heard of it nor seen it. OP was talking about oils that fall outside of the manual aswell, just happened to give my recommendation as the OP asked for

 

[21_6.7f450]

Easy killer...kids play nice or go to your corners.

 

[facility1]

either Amsoil 0w-30 ss or even Schaeffer's 9000 5w-30 if price is no concern, use Fram ultra filter or even Valvoline EP is a great oil,Havoline pro-ds,or Royal Purple pcmo is a fine oil, so many choices...

 

[Glenda W.]

If I were you I’d run Amsoil SS 5w-30 and rest easy at night. Yearly oil change even if less than 5k.

Oh and congratulations on the new truck very nice!!

 

[The_Sheriff]

Details:
New 2024 Nissan Titan XD Pro-4X (5.6L V8 GDI - VK56VD F)
Location: Houston, TX
Current Miles: 450
Driving: Average less than 5 miles a day during week, maybe some highway miles on the weekend (30 minutes or less). Once a month I may take a trip, couple hours each way. Some short trip towing (less than 20 miles)... not to often.
Gas: Run Premium 93 octane only
Catch Can already installed


So I got a new truck, and have been doing a lot of online research to try and pick a optimal oil, oil change interval, etc. to keep it running as long as possible. That being said, I am going to be doing a 1K mile oil change, and then probably every 3K - 5K from then on. Plan on using a premium oil; Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, Amsoile Signature, Redline, etc.... I don't care if you think it's a waste of $ due to whatever, I'm not asking you for financial advice. Also, I have 0... wait that's wrong.... I don't care about fuel economy.

I have been reading numerous threads, and am getting bombarded with to much info., scenarios, etc. For instance:
- Run 5w30... but running short trips most days (under 5 miles), so oil doesn't get up to temp most of the time... so run the manufacture suggested 0w-20.
- GDI has dilution effects on thinner oils, and I live in Houston (i.e. hotter than the surface of sun, with about 5 days of freezing temps in the winter).... so run 5w30 (see above).
- What about 0w30, that's interesting; like say Amsoil Signature 0w-30... sounds good in my mind, but the NOACK rating seems a little high, which I understand to be a little detrimental to GDI engines. That true? Does it even matter with my very short drive times?
- What about something like Redline with a high HTHS? Downsides?

Please embew me with your collective oil geniuses, and show me the light, for you all are truly the Oil Gods of the internet.... honestly though, I would really appreciate your advice and suggestions. Mainly trying to narrow down what weight to use, given all the above, and then which brand (which I understand is subjective). Thank you in advance for your help.

..
HPL is having a 25% off sale July 3rd and 4th. Choose one of their oils and be happy.
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[kschachn]

That's really idiotic then-especially with the lifter issues on the 5.3s.

How will a 20-grade fix the lifter issues?

 

[ARB1977]

I’m kinda stuck with 0W20 at least till 85K in my TT DI V6 Tundra. It also requires 10K changes. Every 5K I’ll do one then the dealer with one at 10K. I’m going to give Mobil One ESP 0W20 a try.

 

[CKN]

How will a 20-grade fix the lifter issues?

It's not going to fix it. Nobody said it would. The 5W/30 won't either.

 

[kschachn]

It's not going to fix it. Nobody said it would. The 5W/30 won't either.

So why was it idiotic then?

 

[CKN]

So why was it idiotic then?

Putting in non spec oil in a truck under warranty....last time I checked trucks were not cheap.

 

[kschachn]

Putting in non spec oil in a truck under warranty....last time I checked trucks were not cheap.

Ah yes the mythical owners manual that states a specific oil grade is a condition of the warranty.

 

[Nessism1]

In what alternate universe do dealers ask what oil viscosity is used when performing warranty work? I worked 21 years for a major Japanese auto OEM, and I've never even heard of the question before signing up here.

I'd run 5W-30, change it at 5k, and use whatever cheap synthetic oil struck my fancy. Do this, and the engine will outlive the rest of the truck.

 

[JTK]

Experiencing what I did with my 2019 Pathfinder with the GDI VQ35DD and knowing what so many owners went through on the forums with this specific engine and with Nissan service in general, I'd do your oil changes sooner than what Nissan recommends and stick with what the owner's manual says for oil until you're out of warranty. Make sure you have a paper trail to support oil/filter changes within what the owner's manual states. I saw so many 2017+ Pathfinder owners get engine coverage denied from Nissan or extended warranty companies simply from missing some oil change receipts.

I don't buy extended warranties, but for a Nissan V8 I would. Last I checked, a replacement transmission for a Titan/Armada is ~$13K alone. Even with all that I still bought my 2022 Frontier and will be out of powertrain warranty with that in ~18K miles.

Here's a video on the latest gen Nissan 5.6L

 

[kschachn]

... The owner's manual often specifies a certain grade of oil and warns that using a different grade could void the warranty. Therefore, it makes sense to use the recommended oil.

Because oil grade is often cited as a warranty concern yet no one has ever posted language from any owner's manual that says a specific grade is required for that warranty. What is connected to warranty is engine damage, and no engine is going to be damaged by using a 30-grade oil instead of the recommended 20-grade.

 

[burbguy82]

Make sure it is warm before you leave on your daily trips, drive it hard.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

I saw so many 2017+ Pathfinder owners get engine coverage denied from Nissan or extended warranty companies simply from missing some oil change receipts.

If the engine is clean - the oil changes done on time - the correct viscosity range was used and there's no accusations by the dealership that the oil volume level on the dipstick was run too low, they cannot deny you a warranty engine fix - if you haven't oil change receipts.