How similar are ESP 0w-20 and 0w-30?

[GI_GRIFF]

That got me thinking, is the esp 0w30 3.0 Hths or 3.5? Can’t really find a reliable source for the Hths of the esp 0w30

The Mobil 1 ESP 0w-30 HTHS is >3.5 because it meets or exceeds some Euro specs requiring the HTHS to be 3.5 or higher.

 

[Javed]

Oil pressure 30 at idle and 82 at WOT. Took 15 minutes to get a full reading on both sides of the dipstick. Jeep still feels zippy. Things look normal. I am liking this AFE 0W-30. Just a little extra protection and peace of mind. ESP 0W-30 is unnecessary in my case.

 

[Javed]

So HPL and Red Line 0W-20 thicken from 8.5 to 9.5. AFE will thin from 10.5 to 9.5. Same deal and AFE is much cheaper. And it is Mobil 1, Mobil 1 doean't make crap. It is a good oil. Can't wait to rack up miles now for a UOA.

 

[mitsuman47]

Jeep still feels zippy.

Jeep sounds happy, and still feels zippy.

I’m glad you’re happy with your choice. AFE isn’t a bad oil.

However, it seems we have a strong placebo effect going on here.

 

[Javed]

I’m glad you’re happy with your choice. AFE isn’t a bad oil.

However, it seems we have a strong placebo effect going on here.

Thank you for saying that AFE isn't a bad oil

 

[Javed]

I’m glad you’re happy with your choice. AFE isn’t a bad oil.

However, it seems we have a strong placebo effect going on here.

Look I have proof that my Jeep is happy

 

[Javed]

It feels good that I'm protected

 

[Blagoje]

Thank you for saying that AFE isn't a bad oil

I would not say that the AFE offerings are bad it's just if you can get ESP offerings for the same price I will take those every time with enthusiasm. My application is the Subaru FA24F engine and I have seen enough UOA data on both AFE oils to know that this engine shreds through the viscosity of both AFE products whereas both ESP products will stay within these 0W20 range over a standard interval.

 

[Glenda W.]

Couldn't resist

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Did you dump Truck and SUV for AFE?

 

[Javed]

Did you dump Truck and SUV for AFE?

Because that is 5W

 

[Javed]

Guys, I took a sample for VOA, are those bubbles in the oil normal?

 

[Javed]

I would not say that the AFE offerings are bad it's just if you can get ESP offerings for the same price I will take those every time with enthusiasm. My application is the Subaru FA24F engine and I have seen enough UOA data on both AFE oils to know that this engine shreds through the viscosity of both AFE products whereas both ESP products will stay within these 0W20 range over a standard interval.

ESP is too thick, 12. I just need a little more viscosity, not a whopping 12.

 

[mitsuman47]

Guys, I took a sample for VOA, are those bubbles in the oil normal?

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This is really bad news. I hope that didn’t come from the same bottle you poured in the engine.

It appears to be cavitating, and it isn’t even in the engine.

We told you the ESP 0w-30 was the correct choice. But, you didn’t listen.

 

[Glenda W.]

This is really bad news. I hope that didn’t come from the same bottle you poured in the engine.

It appears to be cavitating, and it isn’t even in the engine.

We told you the ESP 0w-30 was the correct choice. But, you didn’t listen.

Those are fuel efficiency bubbles!!

 

[Glenda W.]

Because that is 5W

Interesting….You starting below -25f?

 

[edyvw]

ESP is too thick, 12. I just need a little more viscosity, not a whopping 12.

Grade is irrelevant. HTHS matters.

 

[Javed]

Interesting….You starting below -25f?

Mobil 1 got me with this