High Performance Lubricants No VII series engine oils.

Exactly, I always love it when people advise an OCI without any knowledge of HOW the vehicle is used and lecture on "waste". Every manual where they specify an OCI comes with a long list of conditions that if applicable (and they almost always are) changes the recommendation.

The Golf R is running 27psi boost and is heavily tracked. Dream on that I'm running that oil 10k.
The Touareg regularly tows 6k lbs, in 90F+ temps with high humidity in hilly farm country with tons of dirt in the air. It's nearly irreplaceable at this point, so yeah it IS cheap insurance lol Driving conditions and environmental issues are not static, how the last fill of oil stood up is no guarantee how the next one will. Much rather drain oil that may have had a couple thousand left on it then to drain it and find oh darn it was used to the last mile or more.
100%. So many on BITOG are just driving run-of-the-mill older cars where this stuff really doesn't matter as much as they make it out that it does. You and I are a minority here. I can afford ~$250 worth of oil/year for my Sportwagen with 5K changes to have it last as long as I can...but I could also just run LM/M1/whatever for the same interval and it would be the same TBH but I like the HPL.

All the free oil from FCP...pays for it BTW.
 
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100%. So many on BITOG are just driving run-of-the-mill older cars where this stuff really doesn't matter as much as they make it out that it does. You and I are a minority here. I can afford ~$250 worth of oil/year for my Sportwagen with 5K changes to have it last as long as I can...but I could also just run LM/M1/whatever for the same interval and it would be the same TBH but I like the HPL.

All the free oil from FCP...pays for it BTW.
I'm also in the minority here. My car, that some have seen including @wwillson and others feel is the subject of fabled lore (where I said my picture is probably hanging in Wayne's office somewhere.... Good times. Ok) - That vehicle has been rebuilt about 4 or 5 times (we are at the stage of "I forget what we did, I just know that virtually everything on it you can name is new") and I sometimes get into the conversation or topic of "Why, why, WHY!" (About choosing to use HPL motor oil.)

For me, the answer is pretty simple.. after having a Million Dollar ******, (that again most people would have kicked to the curb, much less bought two of. One a 6 and one a 4 cylinder in essentially matching color..) it seems a no-brainer to use the best. Present proper and non-JDM engine (been through some tough times, folks. Things are starting to look up...) of unknown origin had a Six Star head gasket on it when changed before going in... now has OE MLS.. why not use the best oil? Eliminating that variable. My days of xW-20 experimentation are basically over as well since those are things that are not the oil/engine's fault.

And I believe it has paid off. Not only is David Ward an excellent man (so is David Stoiber.. so is everyone at HPL and BITOG, yeah I said it,) but the oil has made my engine QUIET! No snippy quips by elite members about oils not being able to do that, I notice difference so do many. So this oil is where it's at.

I check the level and it may help stop the oil burning, should be pretty easy to measure.. but this oil is some phenomenal stuff and I'm doing an extended OCI just by default of the amount of driving I do.. @TiGeo I'll race ya and you having the faster car and all, I'd come up behind you after a distance because that's just one of those things we do on long highway drives with whoever wants to enjoy the spirited long distance highway drives in between the Staties. Will not do so in Virginia 🤣🤣
 
I'm also in the minority here. My car, that some have seen including @wwillson and others feel is the subject of fabled lore (where I said my picture is probably hanging in Wayne's office somewhere.... Good times. Ok) - That vehicle has been rebuilt about 4 or 5 times (we are at the stage of "I forget what we did, I just know that virtually everything on it you can name is new") and I sometimes get into the conversation or topic of "Why, why, WHY!" (About choosing to use HPL motor oil.)

For me, the answer is pretty simple.. after having a Million Dollar ******, (that again most people would have kicked to the curb, much less bought two of. One a 6 and one a 4 cylinder in essentially matching color..) it seems a no-brainer to use the best. Present proper and non-JDM engine (been through some tough times, folks. Things are starting to look up...) of unknown origin had a Six Star head gasket on it when changed before going in... now has OE MLS.. why not use the best oil? Eliminating that variable. My days of xW-20 experimentation are basically over as well since those are things that are not the oil/engine's fault.

And I believe it has paid off. Not only is David Ward an excellent man (so is David Stoiber.. so is everyone at HPL and BITOG, yeah I said it,) but the oil has made my engine QUIET! No snippy quips by elite members about oils not being able to do that, I notice difference so do many. So this oil is where it's at.

I check the level and it may help stop the oil burning, should be pretty easy to measure.. but this oil is some phenomenal stuff and I'm doing an extended OCI just by default of the amount of driving I do.. @TiGeo I'll race ya and you having the faster car and all, I'd come up behind you after a distance because that's just one of those things we do on long highway drives with whoever wants to enjoy the spirited long distance highway drives in between the Staties. Will not do so in Virginia 🤣🤣
I have no idea what you are talking about or refering to. I can discern that you like HPL oil - cool, I do too.
 
The No VII and P+ lines of oils are formulated for different purposes. While both are very shear stable, the No VII line takes that to the extreme and likely better for engines known for high amounts of fuel dilution (GDI). The P+ line is good for the non-diluter who wants to go extended drain intervals, but the main claim to fame of the P+ line is the extreme cold startup protection with pour points as low as -80°F.

Have an engine known for fuel dilution? No VII.

Want to go long drains and need extreme cold startup protection? P+
 
I'm in for $20, but a McDouble is pushing it a bit too far.
A Nissan from that era will probably only get killed by rust without good underbody maintenance but at least the motor and transmission were better than they are now. Congratulations on over 400,000 miles. Nice to see people keeping vehicles maintained and running plus I'm sure by now it's paid off and the taxes are next to nothing I would hope. Any pictures???
 
The price/value of a car doesn't make someone special. My '91 Nissan, with 483k miles, is worth about $20 and a mcdouble. It starts up and goes A-B just like that $80k vehicle does.
The difference probably is, you live in the south where you don’t get a side of salt with your helping of asphalt, so you actually have to roll down the windows to get a breeze.

Here in the north, road salt has ventilated most ‘91s on their own, and the breeze is ever-present, even when the car’s not moving 🤣
 
The sad thing is that some BITOGers are going to use these fantastic new products, and yet still OCI every 5k miles .... because it's "cheap insurance". 😖
I run Redline 5w-50 in my wife's Mustang 2.3 High Performance Package per the manual and run it the full 10,000 mile oil change interval with zero problems. The 2.3 HPP engines are from the discontinued Focus RS, it was modified to fit the rear wheel drive configuration and uses the RS heavy duty block and head design which are different than the standard 2.3 engine in the Mustang.

I run Redline 15w-40 Diesel oil in my Ram 1500 Ecodiesel and run it the full 10,000 mile oil change interval as well with zero problems.
 
I've been reading/contributing for maybe 2 months now and while I feel I have learned a good bit, I'm still a bit lost on how the different HPL oils differ in benefits. So I know that they all contain the same (higher than standard) cleaning benefits and begin with some awesome base oils, but it starts to go over my head a bit of what Supercar Series and No VIIs Series do and how they would potentially benefit over the standard PCO and PPCO (my understanding is PPCO is only a benefit over PCO in extreme cold situations).
 
I've been reading/contributing for maybe 2 months now and while I feel I have learned a good bit, I'm still a bit lost on how the different HPL oils differ in benefits. So I know that they all contain the same (higher than standard) cleaning benefits and begin with some awesome base oils, but it starts to go over my head a bit of what Supercar Series and No VIIs Series do and how they would potentially benefit over the standard PCO and PPCO (my understanding is PPCO is only a benefit over PCO in extreme cold situations).
If you’ve got a daily driver, the PCEO is plenty good enough and offers benefits only maybe 2 other shelf stock oils do.

The mid-tier HPLs are for someone looking for slightly “better” base oils (PAO vs PCEO’s GTL), and the SuperCar & No VII are for someone who wants the best oil money can buy… would usually be reserved for vehicles over 450HP IMO.

The reason why I say that is a 450HP vehicle costs significantly more than one with less than 350HP, and so the owner would likely have less financial stress from going to the top of HPL’s shelf. It doesn’t make much sense using No VII or SuperCar in a vehicle that 5 years of maintenance with HPL’s fluids would exceed the purchase price of the vehicle. But if you want to go all out, have at it. @High Performance Lubricants’ Mary Jane will be glad to hook you up! Remember #BITOG15 discount code for 15% off!
 
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