Well it took a week longer than planned but we have the No VII series of oils put together. They are consistent with the respective PCMO and Euro series.
High Performance Lubricants No VII series engine oils.
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Looks awesome, David! When will this be added to the website & available to ship?
We will have these on the webstore around the end of the week.
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I'm in love! 
Not complaining here, just hoping to be educated.
In your link, there weren't any 0w oils. Is that simply because you haven't gotten around to them yet, or because there is something in VIIs that allow an oil to meet the pumpability tests for the 0w standard--that you can't get, without those VIIs?
In your link, there weren't any 0w oils. Is that simply because you haven't gotten around to them yet, or because there is something in VIIs that allow an oil to meet the pumpability tests for the 0w standard--that you can't get, without those VIIs?
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0W oils are a compromise. It is possible to blend 0W engine oils without VII, however, the results wouldn't be optimal. As far as I know it is difficult to get a decent NOACK value and a stable product without using VII for a 0W motor oil. Then again, I could be wrong. I am not an expert, just a hobbyist. A month ago we thought that even the oils listed in the PDS were not possible without using VII.
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Sam_Julier
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I could run the PCMO or Euro 5W30 or 10W30 for 7,500 miles in the 240s and call it a day. This would free me up from changing oil all the time.
Just a question, not trying to be a jerk here. Why exactly do you think would you need a 0w oil? 5wXX oil will work perfectly fine 98%+ of the time just about anywhere in the continental states.
But yes, Rod Knock answered your question on this oil. Either you’d end up with a substandard oil because it was super thin, or else you’d need VIIs to hit the 0w ratings.
@High Performance Lubricants - Thank you for doing all this work for our community here on BITOG. It is very unique that a formulator develops oils because there is a request from BITOG that you do so. Simply amazing.
Oh nice, Going to make my first 5k change here soon on the explorer ST. Might give this a try.
Once again, the 10W/20's jump out.
HTHS ~2.7 w/ultimate shear stability.
Specific gravity >0.87.
Yowza !!
HTHS ~2.7 w/ultimate shear stability.
Specific gravity >0.87.
Yowza !!
The 5W-20 has a KV100 of 8.70 cSt and HTHS of 3.267 cP. That oil is a beast.
The 5W-30 has a KV100 of 11.09 cSt and HTHS of 3.566 cP. Also a beast of an oil.
Impressive.
The 5W-30 has a KV100 of 11.09 cSt and HTHS of 3.566 cP. Also a beast of an oil.
Impressive.
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Dave, my thanks for doing this, on several levels. There's a part of me that wishes I didn't already have some of your oil on hand as I'd have great motivation to pull out my credit card.
The Euro 5W-20 looks fantastic, so much so that I couldn't help but think there's a typo in the spec sheet. The PCMO 5W-30 has my name all over it ... I definitely like what I see.
If there's no VII, how do you get the viscosity spread? Choice of base stocks? Additive package?
This is not something I've ever felt nor anything I thought I'd ever say, but I feel a little tingle of excitement about these oils.
The Euro 5W-20 looks fantastic, so much so that I couldn't help but think there's a typo in the spec sheet. The PCMO 5W-30 has my name all over it ... I definitely like what I see.
If there's no VII, how do you get the viscosity spread? Choice of base stocks? Additive package?
This is not something I've ever felt nor anything I thought I'd ever say, but I feel a little tingle of excitement about these oils.
If you were asking about my personally, I hope 0w isn't necessary. I put 10w oil in my Camry.
But yes, Rod Knock answered your question on this oil. Either you’d end up with a substandard oil because it was super thin, or else you’d need VIIs to hit the 0w ratings.
I use 10w30 in my Impreza year round, and was actually researching 10w30s for summer in my EcoBoost… til I found HPL. If where you’re at is >0*F year round, there’s no concerns at all with a 10w rating.
Phenomenal!
Now i have a dilemma , I'm a thickie guy, but I want to run the euro 5w20 or euro 10w20 lol!
I think the 10w20 euro would be perfect in my mazda!
Now i have a dilemma , I'm a thickie guy, but I want to run the euro 5w20 or euro 10w20 lol!
I think the 10w20 euro would be perfect in my mazda!
Euro 10W-30 would be my choice.
Quick question? After I get done using the M1 0w30 I doubt I will go back to the Redline 0w20/5w20/0w30 and only use their Non Slip CVT fluid. What I want to run from HPL is a really stout 5w20 or a 0w30 that kinda in the similar arena as the Redline was. Another thought is do I want to try high oci and use a SS Amsoil line or HPL? I did like the way the RL ran but it was more for people who were content changing it a bit more frequently than even I would like to. It was a bit on the thicker side but once up to temperature I felt comfortable throwing triple digit speeds at it or letting her idle in driveway while talking to medical staff. This whole GDi thing has me concerned about fuel dilution too. I use good fuel, quality additives,clean the pcv valve and do brief IVD cleanings every 5-10k. I am open to suggestions,thoughts. Currently at 224,000 miles give or take. I do intend to hopefully get a performance downpipe,TB spacer and K-tuner or Hondata so I still want to have a lubricant that serves primary for protection and durability vs economy too. Thank You
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Wow, thinking one of tge 20wt oils would be great for my hybrid.
Curious if there will be NOACK estimates at some point?
Curious if there will be NOACK estimates at some point?
Just a question, not trying to be a jerk here. Why exactly do you think would you need a 0w oil? 5wXX oil will work perfectly fine 98%+ of the time just about anywhere in the continental states.
But yes, Rod Knock answered your question on this oil. Either you’d end up with a substandard oil because it was super thin, or else you’d need VIIs to hit the 0w ratings.
Not to hit the 0W ratings, but to hit the KV100 ratings and HTHS.
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