Heartbeat

[hemioiler]

Whenever I minimize carbs, my heartbeat does this (low 50s bpm). It'll jump to 65 to 70 after a "carb heavy" day (no sugar, just grains from bread/rice etc).

Guess it likes to take the occasional day off as well.

Hoping that's ok, blood pressure came back the other day at 124/82 which is down considerably from a high of 138 and forget the lower number. No meds.

 

[Brons2]

Discuss with your GP/Cardiologist? If you were a marathon runner, I'd say a resting heart rate of 52 would be excellent, but assuming you are not that, I would check with the doctor.

 

[KGMtech]

Another way to revive the RHR is to subscribe to new threads that ask:

1. Why change oil if you're only keeping the car for 2 years?
2. I lost my 710 cap, do I really need this?
3. My oil pressure light came on today, but I'm busy, can I drive 3000 miles and get it looked at when I arrive?

If these don't work, see your cardiologist and mention BITOG provocation threads.

 

[oldcodger]

Get with a good cardiologist. Sounds like you are on your way to a pacemaker.

 

[hemioiler]

Discuss with your GP/Cardiologist? If you were a marathon runner, I'd say a resting heart rate of 52 would be excellent, but assuming you are not that, I would check with the doctor.

I do bike a bit (amateur, but for most of the year I get about 2 hours straight each week) and have decent cardio; I stop biking when my legs are tired/sore, not because I'm out of breath.

But anyway, what I was trying to get at is the difference the diet makes. Whether I'm fit or not, it doesn't change in one week; but a few days of low carb and my heart rate drops.

If I told the doc what I was doing, here RHR would be far higher than mine lol. Not a fan of my diet, she's a little by the book and doesn't think much outside of it.

 

[hemioiler]

Get with a good cardiologist. Sounds like you are on your way to a pacemaker.

As I've been pointing out, my heart is perfectly fine. The low heart beat is triggered by the food I'm eating (or not eating).

 

[PWMDMD]

Small study but there was a measurable increase in heart rate following CHO intake. The idea is that hyperglycemia and hyperinsulinemia result in an increase in metabolism and a subsequent increase in HR. This is most pronounced with simple carbs with the highest glycemic indices because they are the quickest and easiest to digest and so blood sugar and metabolism spike quickly.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s002139900335

 

[Pablo]

Get yer A1C checked

 

[bbhero]

Small study but there was a measurable increase in heart rate following CHO intake. The idea is that hyperglycemia and hyperinsulinemia result in an increase in metabolism and a subsequent increase in HR. This is most pronounced with simple carbs with the highest glycemic indices because they are the quickest and easiest to digest and so blood sugar and metabolism spike quickly.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s002139900335

This does make a whole, whole lot of sense to me as well.

 

[Donald]

If over 60 everyone should have a cardiologist. Maybe with some family history it would be over 50. Around here it's months to be seen as a new patient by cardiologist.

And get A1C and glucose level checked.

 

[Boomer]

Twenty years ago, I had a quad bypass. No heart attack, just a feeling in my chest like someone was touching me with a finger at the base of my sternum. I exercised regularly, doing century bike rides, lots of walking, etc. Saved my life as the cardiologist told me I had developed capillaries around each blockage from working out. After the surgery, the surgeon told me that there were four things I should do to prevent a reoccurrence in the future.....find new grandparents!

 

[Vil_Riker]

I've come to a conclusion that carbs are poison. Not sure if it's the carbs or the existence of herbicides and pesticides on them.

 

[thunderfog]

Carbs get a bad rap. Like everything else, proper quantities is key.

 

[Pablo]

I've come to a conclusion that carbs are poison. Not sure if it's the carbs or the existence of herbicides and pesticides on them.

Well your body does need carbs, so they ALL aren't poison.

It's processed simple carbs that we never evolved to eat day after day, 3 meals a day.

Honey and fructose, sugar, GMO white flours, fruit juices, etc are simply not healthy.

Seeds ultra processed oils are death, deep frying is death

Then mix and concentrate herbicides and pesticides in? Double death.

Lean clean meats, tons of clean green and colored vegetative matter, a little fruit, some fermented products and lots of both kinds of exercise is the best you can do. As stated, you can't control who your grandparents were.

 

[hemioiler]

Well your body does need carbs, so they ALL aren't poison.

It's processed simple carbs that we never evolved to eat day after day, 3 meals a day.

Honey and fructose, sugar, GMO white flours, fruit juices, etc are simply not healthy.

Seeds ultra processed oils are death, deep frying is death

Then mix and concentrate herbicides and pesticides in? Double death.

Your body does not require carbs in the slightest. Most people can tolerate small amounts quite well, and most people are metabolically adapted to run on carbs but we absolutely do not require consuming any carbs. If you reduce/eliminate them then your body can adapt to running on fats again as long as you are somewhat healthy.

Guys out there that have been eating beef for years with just a little salt (most famously, the petersons, but tons of other people before them)

 

[hemioiler]

Carbs get a bad rap. Like everything else, proper quantities is key.

I think this is a very simplified and inaccurate position. We can tolerate things in small quantities that are not good for us, like milk for example. We'd still be better off completely avoiding milk products, sugar, alcohol and some other stuff.

 

[Pablo]

Your body does not require carbs in the slightest. Most people can tolerate small amounts quite well, and most people are metabolically adapted to run on carbs but we absolutely do not require consuming any carbs. If you reduce/eliminate them then your body can adapt to running on fats again as long as you are somewhat healthy.

Guys out there that have been eating beef for years with just a little salt (most famously, the petersons, but tons of other people before them)

I wrote "needs" and did not use "requires". That was a mental word substitution you did yourself.

Explanation: What you write is metabolically correct. BUTT optimally the benefits of healthy vegetative carbohydrates outweighs the struggle to get all the the things that prevent butt cancer and such.............

I think eating cabbage family veggies, fresh and fermented - and just a little fresh clean fruit will indeed add longevity. It's what all the medical hacks get a little bit correct and run way too far with. (junk like the food pyramid and ADA grain based joke diet!!)

 

[hemioiler]

I wrote "needs" and did not use "requires". That was a mental word substitution you did yourself.

Fair enough but "need" and "require" are the same thing in this context anyway. We need water, our bodies require it. Same thing.

Explanation: What you write is metabolically correct. BUTT optimally the benefits of healthy vegetative carbohydrates outweighs the struggle to get all the the things that prevent butt cancer and such.............

I've heard this before, but always in the context of having frequent bowel movements. Without some veggies (the story goes) your fiber goes down and so do BM's. That's the not case for everyone, not for me anyway. Initially if you do a hard and fast change from a terrible SAD to 100% meat only then bad things will no doubt happen but the body adapts quite well if changes are done slowly. And the quality of the meat matters as well, bacon loaded with sugar and nitrates is a different story vs pasture raised organic beef.

I think eating cabbage family veggies, fresh and fermented - and just a little fresh clean fruit will indeed add longevity. It's what all the medical hacks get a little bit correct and run way too far with. (junk like the food pyramid and ADA grain based joke diet!!)

I'm with you on fermented foods, those probiotics are probably a good thing for most people. I don't necessarily think a 100% meat diet is optimum for everyone, for myself it's too limiting as I do like a bit of variety etc. But I was just responding to the "needs"/"requires" thing, technically we can get away with just eating meat but I seem to do better with some small amounts of veggies thrown in. Whether that's because I'm not 100% adapted to burning fats yet, dunno. I've had gut issues for years so I'm probably the last person to model a diet on.

 

[Pablo]

Yes - people need to learn what works for them. Guilty of narrowing it to what works for me.

Yes I do think way too much nitrated meat is not so good, butt don't be afraid of a little.

The same people who avoid bacon and salami eat (drink?) canola and soy oils!!!!!!!!!

I should have defined "need" in terms of this thread (other nutrition threads here, help fill this in) - need as in need for optimal health.

I only do all this so people look at me and say "You are 66?"....."You look like you are 90!!"

I kid I kid............

 

[vavavroom]

Both, hyper and hypoglycemia can cause an increased heart rate. A very low-carb diet has the potential to trigger AFib. Electrolyte levels can affect your heart rate. The amount of carbs you eat affects the amount of water that your muscles hold because water binds to glycogen. I'd ask my doc for an electrolytes panel.