Come on man , Detroit has put out crap since the beginning .
During the big war they sure had a big part of our victory though .
Fram Ultra filter material failure
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During the big war they sure had a big part of our victory though .
Heck yeah! The likes of the venerable Chevy Vega, AMC Gremlin, and Ford Pinto were second to none.
Too many models , brands , engines etc . Saturn was going to change the way cars are made . LoL . Corinthian leather , those animals sure had thin skin .
Does it have a cage in it? Doesn't look like it. If not that's why it collapsed.
Did you look it over before you installed it? I agree with others that it looks like it is missing the cage. Hopefully there aren't pieces of the cage somewhere in your engine.
I've torn several Ultras apart and they were held together stronger than any others I've done. It makes me wonder if that one got through with no glue or fastening at all to the plastic. Wow! Looks like BAD QC from the new factory!
More reasons why this particular failure needs to be reported to the manufacturer ASAP.
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That is so true....I had a new Cordoba in the day..lol but 100% correct.
Ever since i pulled a factory installed FORD champ filter and it had a lot of oil trapped between the canister that "squirted out" in high volume when i was cutting it for a c&p I posted here.
I have suspected bad chemistry in the sump varnishing the media. I dug around, If you read ILSAC and API GF-5 spec you will see this mentioned in the notes - more at engine running E85 flexfuel that would see a greater % of ethanol in the sump.
I had a well made $14.00 FILTECH honda racing filter tear two pleats at the base endcap across a winter OCI run on a Nissan QR25DE.
I am guessing there may be an issue with some oils and engines running E10 fuel. Again, I urge all to read the GF-5 spec and notes. It in there somewhere on the Lubrizol page years ago when the spec was being formed. I wish I did a screen shot
The OP should NOT have run the moly and I cautioned against it. I killed a good running Honda 1.5L in my relatively new honda fit sport with that junk that had been propped up around these pages here about 7-10 years ago.
Lubirmoly MoS2 - avoid it like the plague on pressure lubed engines. Splash ODPE should be fine
I have suspected bad chemistry in the sump varnishing the media. I dug around, If you read ILSAC and API GF-5 spec you will see this mentioned in the notes - more at engine running E85 flexfuel that would see a greater % of ethanol in the sump.
I had a well made $14.00 FILTECH honda racing filter tear two pleats at the base endcap across a winter OCI run on a Nissan QR25DE.
I am guessing there may be an issue with some oils and engines running E10 fuel. Again, I urge all to read the GF-5 spec and notes. It in there somewhere on the Lubrizol page years ago when the spec was being formed. I wish I did a screen shot
The OP should NOT have run the moly and I cautioned against it. I killed a good running Honda 1.5L in my relatively new honda fit sport with that junk that had been propped up around these pages here about 7-10 years ago.
Lubirmoly MoS2 - avoid it like the plague on pressure lubed engines. Splash ODPE should be fine
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You "think"? Are you just speculating or have you made any measurements and comparisons?
The "wrong" oil grade AND a MoS2 solid additive in suspension was run.
But I agree, report it - but with the underlying conditions revealed.
I would assumed they are designed to be "slighlty too tall" How else would you get a seal?
If you expect sliding across a gasketing face on installation - you should lightly oil it.
Zee09
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We are still waiting 5 years to hear back from Baldwin. I suspect when they get back to us most will be dead except youngster @AutoMechanic
Well I guess that was the answer then. We’ll see if Fram answers in the same way.
The oil grade would have nothing to do with this failure.
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Why do the members here turn everything into a bash the USA thread ?
Zee09
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We know they will be better.
But will they take care of it or go the Purolator route...that is the question. I still have some faith at this point.
Zee09
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Baldwin outsourced these types of filters to Taiwan. Guess they know something eh?
Possibly. But I guaranteed that if I put a thick oil in my ford and MoS2 and got onto the highway 1 mile from my house with the temperature at 3 degrees F and floored the car for 7 seconds to merge, the filter pleats would be screaming for mercy.
We know better, but many others may not know that is a bad practice.
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