FRAM PH10575. significant changes made

[wemay]

Same price.

 

[JavierH19]

A welcome change. Inlet hole and e core lovers like myself can rejoice. I wonder what the inside looks like. Can you measure the can length OP, the fram website states 4" for the old one which hasn't been updated yet.

Does anyone know if there's a pro to having a taller gasket. I tend to like the shallow kind like on the left.

 

[OLEJOE]

Which one is which ? New ? Old ?

 

[4WD]

Same price.

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(May) I ask where is the cut open?

 

[JavierH19]

Which one is which ? New ? Old ?

left is old right is new. I almost missed the writing on the paper.

 

[4WD]

A welcome change. Inlet hole and e core lovers like myself can rejoice. I wonder what the inside looks like. Can you measure the can length OP, the fram website states 4" for the old one which hasn't been updated yet.

Does anyone know if there's a pro to having a taller gasket. I tend to like the shallow kind like on the left.

Would love to see the rebirth of the 63e inside

 

[JavierH19]

Would love to see the rebirth of the 63e inside

Metal caps with e core would be nice.

 

[racer12306]

Wow, it's amazing that those are the same part number.

 

[OLEJOE]

left is old right is new. I almost missed the writing on the paper.

I missed that. Thanks

 

[BrendanC]

this is what i love to see for the PH line. E core with metal end caps FTW. only issue remaining is first brands fixing their leaf spring stamping.

 

[4WD]

this is what i love to see for the PH line. E core with metal end caps FTW. only issue remaining is first brands fixing their leaf spring stamping.

Here is a 2019 snap of the 63e … zoom on the impression made in the fiber end. Champ was making better ends than Fram in that era IMO

 

[Sayjac]

In the age of downsizing filter applications, this is odd. 'Personally' prefer the baseplate design of the old vs new. But I'm speculating the new ecore will have metal endcaps, that means metal to metal bypass piece seal area. For regular readers here, shouldn't be any need to elaborate on the implications of that. And another "Fram" with Champ Labs design.

 

[fantastic]

New one more easy to see media. Looks good and good comparison of the changes. Thanks

 

[jetman]

Cut the new one open so we can see the guts please.

 

[wemay]

Cut the new one open so we can see the guts please.

I have a new filter cutter on order from Amazon. My old one bit the dust.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

A welcome change. Inlet hole and e core lovers like myself can rejoice. I wonder what the inside looks like. Can you measure the can length OP, the fram website states 4" for the old one which hasn't been updated yet.

Does anyone know if there's a pro to having a taller gasket. I tend to like the shallow kind like on the left.

My take is that there are too many inlet holes here making for a less stable stamping. Even Emmentaler cheese would be jealous. 1/2 that amount would still be overly sufficient.
The main Ecore tradeoff is too large a diameter from the plastic cage design when employed on the small form factor part. You may gain some pleat stability but you loose media area, and filters are already too small these days.

- Arco

 

[slo town]

Nice presentation @wemay.

Scott

 

[ARCOgraphite]

I have a new filter cutter on order from Amazon. My old one bit the dust.

Good ! Run the filter and cut later. We know what E cores look like!

Sorry ... had too much black tea this morning.

 

[GSCJR]

Getting ready to install a DL10575 that's in my hand right now, and it matches the old Fram version, minus the silicone ADBV. Date code is A32951. Made in USA

 

[4WD]

I have a new filter cutter on order from Amazon. My old one bit the dust.

Mine bit the rust LoL … keeping oil on the new one !