I used to be a Fram basher. Not anymore - and if Honda and Subaru trust Fram from the factory, it’s good enough for me.
FRAM or not?
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Yeah they have stepped up their game... That's for sure.
I believe the Fram Ultra started some changes within Fram. They added media to the orange cans and just that alone helped them perform better for longer. The Ultra was built to such a strong high standard that it may have made people in the company take a better look at improving their overall line up quality wise.
I believe the Fram Ultra started some changes within Fram. They added media to the orange cans and just that alone helped them perform better for longer. The Ultra was built to such a strong high standard that it may have made people in the company take a better look at improving their overall line up quality wise.
What are they really,?
30 years ago I used the fram orange can and nothing else. Then they got a bad rap I think when they changed to the cardboard/fiber media end caps.
Now many use fiber media end caps with great success.
I don't use them but would run one if installed.
Now many use fiber media end caps with great success.
I don't use them but would run one if installed.
I told some yo-yo
on YouTube that Fram uses fiber endcaps, not paper, not cardboard. He responded that paper and cardboard are the same as fiber and that he was going to use a Wix filter because it has metal endcaps. I told him that Wix uses fiber filter media and asked why would he want to use filter media made out of cardboard? 
my brother's wife's 2nd cousin's uncle's best friend from high school. LOL NO!
The Mustang probably already had one wheel in the grave(or junkyard) not from the oil filter.
If anything I would think gluing per to cardboard would work better then gluing to metal. I mean it's often difficult to glue stuff to metal.
A personalized message from a moderator politely asked me to refrain from bashing some particular product.
I don't remember what it was and that is not important.
My magnificently thick skull needed time to realize that all fora want to sell ad space and that "schoolyard bullying" of any product diminishes the odds of gaining subscribers. Duhhh.
I know from the intel here that Dex-Cool is good stuff and that misapplication (into non airtight systems) and contamination are what's bad.
Now the stupid name "Death-Cool" bothers me.
Opened Orange Cans looked incredibly lacking in the amount of media compared to almost any other filter. Honestly, 6 or 7 zig-zags of material.
They were also so much lighter than other filters. You can't just dismiss that.
In my youth, said Orange cans were sold at Two-Guys. That was a known to be a cheap goods outlet.
Things got better, you say? I'm glad.
I don't remember what it was and that is not important.
My magnificently thick skull needed time to realize that all fora want to sell ad space and that "schoolyard bullying" of any product diminishes the odds of gaining subscribers. Duhhh.
I know from the intel here that Dex-Cool is good stuff and that misapplication (into non airtight systems) and contamination are what's bad.
Now the stupid name "Death-Cool" bothers me.
Opened Orange Cans looked incredibly lacking in the amount of media compared to almost any other filter. Honestly, 6 or 7 zig-zags of material.
They were also so much lighter than other filters. You can't just dismiss that.
In my youth, said Orange cans were sold at Two-Guys. That was a known to be a cheap goods outlet.
Things got better, you say? I'm glad.
I don't have a problem with the base Fram tough guard oil filter. They work "good enough" for their intended purpose.
Personally, I never buy them because you can get a better filter for the same money.
Personally, I never buy them because you can get a better filter for the same money.
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I use to use Fram but I got sucked in by those videos on YouTube before joining here so now I’m scared to use them. I use Wix and Bosch now. I like the Fram because I can get it at Walmart for about $3 though. I found an old Honeywell one the other day I was tempted to get it but decided not too.
Better not start watching those YT flat earth videos.
I bought into the bitog hype and bought a couple Fram ultras.
Good man.
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Me likes the gold can bestest !
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