Fram is the best oil filter...

[oilcanboyd]

according to this guy at k-mart. so this guy and another is discussing about how wonderful fram filters are. i told them their oil filters suck and why (cardboard endcaps, etc.). so then he proceeds to school me on fram oil fiklters. according to him, "we use fram oil filters on our indy car engines that cost $40,000". he also mentions that hes been using them for 35 years without any problems. Then he says it doesnt matter what filters you use as long as you change your oil every 3000 miles. then i told him "why not buy these castrol and penske oil filters that are half the price ($2) of the frams?" he then tell me "frams are the best!" well i guess im the dummy

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[HOndaGuy]

no, a walmart worker told me all filters were made by honeywell labs, the same ppl who make fram and that they make no difference whatsover. It pays to research, bc these ppl working in retail don't know jack. Oh and if fram was so dang good, i can get a motorcraft for my parents fords by about 20 cents cheaper, and it is a pureone(good all around filter).

 

[Rick]

LOL that's a funny story, not that I'm trying to mock his story or anything, but if a fram filter was used on an indy car it would blowup to pieces. Sounds more like he's just trying to get you to by the filter that they sell, just because they probably payed 10 cents for it and they wants to make 3.50 from you.
They are the worst filter on the market.
Do you ever wonder why your engine makes a bit of rattling noise when you start it for the first 5 sec. That is the antidrain back valve, that I don't think even exists in that filter. So all the oil falls back down past the filter.
From what I have seen and been told, ACDELCO, for a GM car is by far the best filter. There are other filters that cost much more for eg Mobil 1 & K&N but they are not worth the extra cost.
And if you have a jap car then again stick with the manufacturers oil filter they disigned the filter for there own engine.

I hope this helps.

 

[cryptokid]

cardboard has vital anti wear components that are released into the engine. it also cardboard patricles get between your crank and bearings to aid in prevention of metal to metal contact. the metal touches cardboard instead of another metal.
you guys didnt know this? also the string is like dental floss, it comes lose from the filter like the cardboard does, only the string cleans out piston rings like dental floss does for teeth and also gets cought up in your crank main seals to absorb oil and aid in prevention of older seals from leaking.
mansome of you ppl are ignorant to the ways of modern filter technology. i cant believe no one knew this.

 

[oilcanboyd]

i know that fram oil filters sucks. i was being sarcastic when i said i was the dummy. yeah this old guy didnt give me one technical reason why frams are the best. he just said hes been using it forever and that his indy motor uses fram also. i guess he's the dummy by not doing any research.

 

[oilcanboyd]

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And if you have a jap car then again stick with the manufacturers oil filter they disigned the filter for there own engine.

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fram makes some oem honda filters (made in canada).

 

[Rick]

Ya but I think that you should just stick with the factory filter.

 

[S2000driver]

Fram may sell the most oil filters in retail stores, but that doesn't mean they are the best.

 

[Rick]

I would say it's just because of marketing, sure they have the upperhand there. But that is realy all they have.

 

[Patman]

I find it funny that the Kmart guy referred to it as "our Indy car" as if he was the one turning wrenches on it!

[ February 03, 2003, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: Patman ]

 

[Touringpro]

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Originally posted by oilcanboyd:
. . . according to him, "we use fram oil filters on our indy car engines that cost $40,000". . .

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I see. Well that would come as a big surprise to "his" crew at Newman/Haas Racing. It would also surprise the good folks at Denso who supply the filters for the Toyota RV8F engine in "his" Lola race car.

K-mart Bubba is also on the low side regarding the cost of said powerplants. Each car in the team uses 20+ engines during the course of the season, and each is leased for a bit over $100,000.

 

[Drew99GT]

I've personally seen two Fram filters "blow up" so to speak on a friends supercharged 5.0 Mustang. On one of the failures, the gasket simply just ruptered for some reason while he was making a pass down the 1/4, luckily he saw the no oil pressure and shut her down quickly. The other time, the gasket spit and the case crakced slightly, but we think that was because of the PCV being hooked up after the blower and pressurizing the crankcase with 16 pounds of Vortech T-Trim goodness

We learned our lesson on that one!

 

[oilcanboyd]

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Ya but I think that you should just stick with the factory filter.

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even if its the same as a fram extra guard oil filter with the cardboard end caps, plastic bypass valve, and no anti-drain back valve?

btw, im currently using abosch premium filter and thinking of switching to WIX the next oil change.

 

[rob-the-oil-nut]

> the string is like dental floss, it comes loose from the filter like the cardboard does, only the string cleans out piston rings like dental floss does for teeth and also gets cought up in your crank main seals to absorb oil and aid in prevention of older seals from leaking.
Man, some of you ppl are ignorant to the ways of modern filter technology. i cant believe no one knew this.
Well, that's what a discussion board is for. I for one thank and applaud you, and will be flossing my pistons with shreds from crappy filters from this day on! An "additive" with little chunks of cardboard suspended in it, cannot be too far away!
Your sarcasm was so cool I just HAD to try to add to it. I LOL'd!
Have a good one!
Rob

 

[jsharp]

Come on guys. The fact they they are radioactive orange should make up for any internal problems with them...