Found firearm in dealership loaner

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Hall said:
In free states, and this happened with me, there is no "illegally owned" anything here. I am legally allowed to possess a gun.

The "was it used in a crime?" question is 100% irrelevant. Police can't LOOK at a weapon and determine this on the spot.
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I pick up my loaner car and never look in the glovebox. I pull out of the dealership and drive down the road and make a right on red and get pulled over. Cop asks if I have any firearms in the car and I state no. He then asks for license and registration and I open the glovebox and there is a firearm. I just said one thing and it wasn't the truth. He then asks whose firearm it is and I say I don't know. I'd imagine he'd find that curious. He then takes possession of the it and runs the serial number and it was reported stolen or whatever. The stop rapidly escalates from a traffic stop into a firearm investigation, the gun gets seized, the driver is likely removed from the car and detained, and arrest becomes a real possibility even before anyone sorts out whether the driver truly knew the gun was there.

I just wanted to go to Costco in a loaner and now I'm dealing with this and that would make me unhappy. I don't live in Ohio and so what would happen to you there means nothing to me, just what would likely happen to me where I live. Is this every case? No, but it's perfectly plausible.
 
PWMDMD said:
I pick up my loaner car and never look in the glovebox. I pull out of the dealership and drive down the road and make a right on red and get pulled over. Cop asks if I have any firearms in the car and I state no. He then asks for license and registration and I open the glovebox and there is a firearm. I just said one thing and it wasn't the truth. He then asks whose firearm it is and I say I don't know.
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You keep your license and registration in the glove box of a loaner (or rental) ? When they ask for registration, you answer "this is a loaner from dealer ABC and I don't have any registration". This avoids opening the glove box at all and even if you still did, you've already told them it's a loaner - not yours - and it's not your weapon.

I've been pulled over twice in recent years. When the police run our license plate - before pulling us over - they know that we are licensed to conceal carry. In neither case did the officer ask where any firearms were. Both times, I had mine with me. Our daughter got pulled over and since the car is registered to me, the same flag came up to the officer. He didn't ask either.
 
Hall said:
You keep your license and registration in the glove box of a loaner (or rental) ? When they ask for registration, you answer "this is a loaner from dealer ABC and I don't have any registration". This avoids opening the glove box at all and even if you still did, you've already told them it's a loaner - not yours - and it's not your weapon.

I've been pulled over twice in recent years. When the police run our license plate - before pulling us over - they know that we are licensed to conceal carry. In neither case did the officer ask where any firearms were. Both times, I had mine with me. Our daughter got pulled over and since the car is registered to me, the same flag came up to the officer. He didn't ask either.
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I keep my license in my wallet but the car registration isn't mine and so it's in the glovebox.

How does getting pulled over in a LOANER and running the plate tell the office YOU have a license to conceal? In this scenario it's not your car and not your gun but you are driving it and you're unbelievably naive to think this couldn't potentially cause an issue.

This is all moot anyway because it's hard to believe anyone would be ok with a firearm being unknowingly left in a glovebox of a car used by lots of different people - it's certainly not secured in the glovebox under these conditions.
 
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KrisZ said:
If we start running hypotheticals, anything could land you in trouble.
Here is a man that was pulled over at gunpoint all because the dealership reported his loaner stolen.



Here is another one and the driver was arrested

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...the conclusion should be all of these scenarios are unacceptable - not any one of them is ok simply because any one of them could happen.
 
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Hirev said:
Not a big deal IMO. Back in the late 1970s about 1/4 of the student parking lot at my high school probably had a gun in their unlocked vehicles during hunting season.
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Same here. World has changed and not for the better.
No one ever thought about putting a hand on somebodys weapon, knowing they may not survive the a** kicking they were about to receive if they did!!
 
JimPghPA said:
Its not "cool" to be carrying a firearm without a license to carry, even if laws are changing.

Return the vehicke. Not your problem. Dealers problem.
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Carrying a fire arm is ingrained by our founders. Inalienable. Shall not be infringed. I have a license from my maker, I don't need one from the state. Requiring one from the state is conceding the inalienable part to them.

However I don't think the OP should keep the gun - its simply not his. 10mm socket either, although tbh, that would be very tempting. :ROFLMAO:
 
There would be the small, but real possibility that any gun found like that would have a history including an unsolved homicide wherein some bullet(s) traceable to that gun are waiting for some future tie to a gun.

Most people who would keep such a gun, probably would keep the amo that came with it, further enabling a tie to previous bullets, if such a case existed.

Additionally, if it has a hustory, and you interfear with its chain of custody, some zealous prosecutor may include a charge of tampering with evidence.

Sure, the chance of such problems are very low. But they are not zero.
 
BC1 said:
No license needed for the OP that now has a free gun in ATL. No need to tell LEO he has it. LEO cannot ask if he has it. Here in this state, we follow the Constitution.
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Admittedly, I haven’t read every post here.

But, there is a good chance the firearm will be reported stolen. You get caught with it and there’s a decent chance you’re taking a ride before convincing the judge you found it in a rental.

It’s reasonable to not want to risk it. I agree with @wwillson about not wanting anything to do with it.
 
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nomas said:
I wonder how some of you sleep at night ? Ya'll " what if " yourselves into a frenzy .
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I've lived a really great, happy, and successful life considering the "what ifs" in all situations and I sleep really well at night knowing I've given these what ifs their due consideration. In my experience, most people's lives aren't going as well as they could because they fail to consider situations in their totality.
 
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