Found firearm in dealership loaner

[kballowe]

Take it to the range. See how it shoots.

 

[BC1]

Admittedly, I haven’t read every post here.

But, there is a good chance the firearm will be reported stolen. You get caught with it and there’s a decent chance you’re taking a ride before convincing the judge you found it in a rental.

It’s reasonable to not want to risk it. I agree with @wwillson about not wanting anything to do with it.

I need to clarify a little. Prior to my post folks were concerned with police finding it during a traffic stop. You are not required to inform in GA. Police cannot ask "any weapons?" initially during a regular speeding stop. They can ask later if you give them reason to suspect something criminal is afoot but not just for a traffic violation.

The person who had it prior lost it. OP already told the dealer and the police he found it. They didn't care. It is not stolen.

These terms used in this thread; licences, permits, owners, permissions, registrations; are not real things here. They are infringements.

 

[johnmyster]

Finders keepers. Go to local friendly gun shop and ask them to run serial. If not reported stolen, keep it or ask them if they want to buy it.

You did what you could. Leaving a gun to fall into bad hands...the liability is now on you.

 

[johnmyster]

That's wild to me. So, only the bad guys have guns when something goes down, the law abiding citizens become cannon fodder.

I know that living in SC you feel insulated from gun control nonsense, but please for the rest of us get involved in the 2A push before it comes to your doorstep.

 

[mk378]

Cop asks if I have any firearms in the car and I state no.

First as others said that's not a legal question and you don't have to answer at all. If you do, either "yes" or "not that I know of" is what to say, especially when it's a borrowed car.

It's not legal to lie to the police but it is legal for them to lie to you, so you're really at a disadvantage in any verbal debate.

 

[PWMDMD]

First as others said that's not a legal question and you don't have to answer at all. If you do, either "yes" or "not that I know of" is what to say, especially when it's a borrowed car.

It's not legal to lie to the police but it is legal for them to lie to you, so you're really at a disadvantage in any verbal debate.

Yeah...I think you give the average person too much credit under the stress of being pulled over and unexpectedly finding a firearm in the glovebox during a traffic stop.

How about this one. You have the car overnight and your 12 year old is excited to see a new car in the driveway and he goes exploring without your knowledge.

You're never going to convince me that this is ok and not a problem.

 

[TheOilWizard]

I need to clarify a little. Prior to my post folks were concerned with police finding it during a traffic stop. You are not required to inform in GA. Police cannot ask "any weapons?" initially during a regular speeding stop. They can ask later if you give them reason to suspect something criminal is afoot but not just for a traffic violation.

The person who had it prior lost it. OP already told the dealer and the police he found it. They didn't care. It is not stolen.

These terms used in this thread; licences, permits, owners, permissions, registrations; are not real things here. They are infringements.

You are right that it’s not stolen, but that won’t prevent it from being reported stolen. And in your possession.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Carrying a fire arm is ingrained by our founders. Inalienable. Shall not be infringed. I have a license from my maker, I don't need one from the state. Requiring one from the state is conceding the inalienable part to them.

However I don't think the OP should keep the gun - its simply not his. 10mm socket either, although tbh, that would be very tempting.

A little history lesson. Did you know that prior to the 14A the 2A didn't apply to the state and local government?

 

[nomas]

Return it to the rental company (dealer) and let them figure it out. Promise you it’s not the first time.

Did you miss the part where he said the Dealer doesn't want to fool with it ?

 

[TheOilWizard]

Did you miss the part where he said the Dealer doesn't want to fool with it ?

Nope. Drop the car off, inform them, and leave.

Doesn’t matter if they don’t want to deal with it, they have to.

 

[I<3oil]

A little history lesson. Did you know that prior to the 14A the 2A didn't apply to the state and local government?

Technically it did, it was just never clarified until the Incorporation Doctrine formally.

 

[SC Maintenance]

A little history lesson. Did you know that prior to the 14A the 2A didn't apply to the state and local government?

I disagree. Our founders direction was clear.

Supreme court is a political entity. Supreme court - third stool of government - long been an oppressor's. Proof being they continually overturn themselves.

Again, inalienable. The government cannot take away a right bestowed by your maker. Jefferson wrote, "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms," and was in his draft I believe.

Many of the original 13 states have there own version of the 2nd in there constitution - to ensure there was no confusion. Your state does. So does mine.

 

[Jango]

The problem could have been avoided if you hadn't requested a loaner "with, at least, a six banger".

 

[PWMDMD]

I disagree. Our founders direction was clear.

Supreme court is a political entity. Supreme court - third stool of government - long been an oppressor's. Proof being they continually overturn themselves.

Again, inalienable. The government cannot take away a right bestowed by your maker. Jefferson wrote, "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms," and was in his draft I believe.

The current state of the US has taught me there is nothing clear about the Constitution (or what the founding fathers wanted) because the entire document is up for interpretation based on the whims of those in charge and there is no absolute ability to enforce it.

 

[joekingcorvette]

Add it to your collection and see if anyone calls for it back. The more people you get involved the more complicated it gets.

 

[Mechanician]

I disagree. Our founders direction was clear.

Supreme court is a political entity. Supreme court - third stool of government - long been an oppressor's. Proof being they continually overturn themselves.

Again, inalienable. The government cannot take away a right bestowed by your maker. Jefferson wrote, "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms," and was in his draft I believe.

Many of the original 13 states have there own version of the 2nd in there constitution - to ensure there was no confusion. Your state does. So does mine.

The right to the pursuit of happiness and others are inalienable too, and you lose those when you go to prison.
Being an inalienable right doesn't mean the government can't take them away.

 

[rijndael]

Being an inalienable right doesn't mean the government can't take them away.

If it can be taken away, it's not inalienable.

 

[Mechanician]

If it can be taken away, it's not inalienable.

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Definitions and reality don't align in this instance.
We would have to close all prisons, and surrender to chaos.
That's not what Jefferson, or the Founding Fathers had in mind.

 

[SC Maintenance]

The right to the pursuit of happiness and others are inalienable too, and you lose those when you go to prison.
Being an inalienable right doesn't mean the government can't take them away.

If your a free man you are. Our founders were clear about this. If you followed the laws you were a free man, and your pursuit (but not guarantee) of happiness was to be ensured.

This is the entire purpose of the constitution. If the government makes unconstitutional laws we free men are supposed to vote the bums out. 1st and 2nd amendments are last resorts - again per Jefferson. The tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time.

 

[Mechanician]

If you followed the laws

The key words that conflict with the sovereign citizen thing.