Ford Expedition or Chevrolet Tahoe?

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: Trav
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I highly doubt ANY family needs a Expedition or a Tahoe AT ALL.

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but just know it wasnt the smart choice

How can you make statements like this?
How do you know what someone else needs or doesn't need for all you know he might be better off with an Excursion, Denali XL 2500 or even a unimog.

If someone buys what they want and are happy with it they made the smart choice.

 

[GMBoy]

Originally Posted By: Spazdog
Originally Posted By: Trav
Why do you really give a rats rear what anyone buys or drives? You don't have to pay for it, maintain it or have anything to do with it.
Tell the real reason why this bothers you.


He's actually right. There are a LOT of trucks here that never see anything beyond passenger car duty. I just did a service on a Silverado 2500HD. The bed was unmarred by any scratches and the hitch receiver did not have any scratches on it as if it had never been used.

Personally, I'm not bothered by it. I'm amused by it.

If you ask them why they bought such a large heavy duty truck they often respond, "I can't drive no little-bitty car. I'm too hard on cars...." which I interpret as them admitting that they are bad drivers.
My position on this stance is further bolstered by the fact that they cannot manuever their own vehicles in and out of my garage without hitting the wall.
I have a client who is a cowgirl. Real cowgirl. Barrel Racer. 4'10" and maybe 90lbs in boots belt buckle and hat. Gorgeous little thing. She can manuever her F-350 SuperCrew in and out like nobody's business. Just like she was riding her Quarter Horse. Gooseneck horse trailer with living quarters goes exactly where she wants it to. But these "real men" who have to drive "real trucks" cannot. It's hilarious. I feel bad for them when they catch the side of the bed of their new 3/4 ton diesel on the 8" reinforced concrete wall...rather, I feel bad for the truck. But I am not offended. It's just funny to me.



LOL!! I live very near Arlington and think I know the girl you are talking about (I'm a horse owner myself). This F350 wouldn't happen to also be a King Ranch would it???

 

[cptbarkey]

Originally Posted By: Trav
Quote:
I highly doubt ANY family needs a Expedition or a Tahoe AT ALL.

Quote:
but just know it wasnt the smart choice

How can you make statements like this?
How do you know what someone else needs or doesn't need for all you know he might be better off with an Excursion, Denali XL 2500 or even a unimog.

If someone buys what they want and are happy with it they made the smart choice.


shrug, without conjecturing further people think they NEED something when in actuality they absolutely didn't. My point without further fanning the flames of SUV lovers, the OP should think out of the box and re-question his two picks if he/she really wants to make the best choice.

 

[yeti]

what trav said.
these threads about vehicle choice always make me laugh. there's always some with redneck, holier than thou thinking, that state that you shouldn't drive an suv because they use too much gas, and it's not a "smart" choice. it's not your business if others want to drive an suv, unless you are going to pay for it.

then there are the ones that suggest another vehicle, when the op asked about one or the other.READ THE THREAD TITLE.
they are very similar in specs. if price is not an issue, let the wife decide. if you have the final say, and the truck has some issues, large or small from time to time, it will be your fault -- FOREVER. you will hear about until ... whoever dies first.
op --at any rate, good luck on your purchase,and enjoy the comedy of this thread. it's better than the comedy channel.

 

[yeti]

after i posted, i see that cptbarkey posted just ahead of me.it's not about suv "lovers", as you state -- it's about freedom of choice. as well, you state that the op should re question his two picks to make the best choice. TO HIM -- this is the best choice.
i don't understand why some feel compelled to tell others what purchases are "smart", or "best" for them.
as i said a few minutes ago, it's better than the comedy channel. carry on, people.

 

[01rangerxl]

Originally Posted By: Spazdog


He's actually right. There are a LOT of trucks here that never see anything beyond passenger car duty. I just did a service on a Silverado 2500HD. The bed was unmarred by any scratches and the hitch receiver did not have any scratches on it as if it had never been used.


All the better for the used market...lots of nice, clean trucks that haven't been worked to death. When I got my truck four years ago you could eat off the recent Line-X spray in liner...now it has rips and tears all over the place.

 

[surfstar]

Buy what you want - but like I said - it DOES affect other people. Bad gas mileage and higher emissions (yes they're finally cleaning up the big engines too, but burn more gas = more emissions). We all breathe the same air. So just as you can not give a [censored], then we should be able to ask you to stop and think sometimes.

To the ones that actually USE the truck or SUV, I have no issue. To the 95% that never go farther offroad than a curb at the mall - rethink your decisions. They're most likely the ones in debt and overspending b/c they don't think about those things too. These are the ones we have issue with.

Yes, OT. But apparently the choice between the two in the OP was an either or as they're both good vehicles if that's what you want and need.

 

[dave1251]

If you feel like the emissions of vehicles are affecting your quality of life I recommend getting out of California and moving to Antarctica there is not a whole lot of vehicles there. But make sure you stay away from volcanoes on the trip down I hear the emissions of volcanoes are out of control.

 

[artificialist]

Originally Posted By: surfstar
Buy what you want - but like I said - it DOES affect other people. Bad gas mileage and higher emissions (yes they're finally cleaning up the big engines too, but burn more gas = more emissions). We all breathe the same air. So just as you can not give a [censored], then we should be able to ask you to stop and think sometimes.

To the ones that actually USE the truck or SUV, I have no issue. To the 95% that never go farther offroad than a curb at the mall - rethink your decisions. They're most likely the ones in debt and overspending b/c they don't think about those things too. These are the ones we have issue with.

Yes, OT. But apparently the choice between the two in the OP was an either or as they're both good vehicles if that's what you want and need.

Hazardous gas emissions are measured and regulated in grams per mile, not as a percentage of fuel used.

Go sit behind an air cooled VW Beetle and behind a new Ford Expedition and tell me what annoys you the most.

Fuel Spent does not equal poisonous gasses created.

 

[SLCraig]

I like the looks of the Tahoe better, I am pretty sure they are both solid trucks though.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: dave1251
If you feel like the emissions of vehicles are affecting your quality of life I recommend getting out of California and moving to Antarctica there is not a whole lot of vehicles there. But make sure you stay away from volcanoes on the trip down I hear the emissions of volcanoes are out of control.


My 180 mph car is certified as an ULTRA low emissions vehicle.

Nothing comes out the pipe but flowers and bits of small economy cars!

 

[MaximaGuy]

Choice is great that is the value system of Americans.

Americans tend to take choice to the next level when it comes to speach, constitutional amendments, buying habits and what not.

If one was to go on a vacation (we can hardly the way corporate America makes us work unless one is self employed) one could easy rent a truck like we rent a RV and get done w/ it. What some think stupid on the forum is driving it all day even to commute - that means we are either stupid or brainless. Could be both thanks the how Americans are raised and the choices Americans think is needed to commmute.

Are you telling the forum Singaporeans are stupid to put a tax/kg driven on these roads. Why will American infrastructure be in such a dire state if not for these 5000 lb trucks prouling in our side streets and highways -- why we should we all pay so much taxes to maintain our lifestyle of uselessness and waste.

Unless there is a road tax that is reflective of "choices" we are doomed and all these jokers in Washington keep saying "Freedom on oil dependence" that will never ever happen because these behmonths are on the street because of the loop hole in the law (farm trucks have low emmission stds set in the 70s and that law will not change since there is so much money to be made on these behemonths).

American car manufactures are lousy pack of fools -- there is so much money to be made by building intellegent vehicle and not 5000 lb metals on 4 wheels. Then comes the macho ness of some forum members in driving these beasts, it is sad to hear this machoness...

 

[GMBoy]

Originally Posted By: MaximaGuy
American car manufactures are lousy pack of fools -- there is so much money to be made by building intellegent vehicle and not 5000 lb metals on 4 wheels.


WOW! There is so much I can say to that comment, but I will keep it civil and short.

1. You obviously do not understand that all businesses are out to make profits. When GM makes an average of $10-15k profit off of each large SUV and they are selling strong even today- THAT is not a lousy pack of fools. My plant making these large SUVS has been on MAXIMUM overtime for the last 3 years and our operating plan has actually added ADDED more Saturday work just to try to meet demand.

2. Why not mention Toyota/Lexus and Nissan/Infinity with there large SUV's? They aren't a lousy pack of fools?? NOPE - they want some of the SUV money too.

3. GM has finally gotten on board with small cars and is not fully dependent on large trucks anymore. So, GM and Ford are making a wide range of vehicles for all tastes and budgets. What the heck more do you want????

4. It is the people buying the trucks (they WANT them!)- not the car companies forcing them on the people. We build what will sell - business 101 here.

5. You are wrong in that "there is so much money to be made by building intelligent vehicles" - if that were true we'd be selling small cars in larger volumes. Basically, a lot of people don't want these cars - even when gas hit $4 - many (myself included) did not care. Also - what exactly is an "intellegent" car?? Are you saying people with trucks are stupid?

 

[SLCraig]

Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: MaximaGuy
American car manufactures are lousy pack of fools -- there is so much money to be made by building intellegent vehicle and not 5000 lb metals on 4 wheels.


WOW! There is so much I can say to that comment, but I will keep it civil and short.

1. You obviously do not understand that all businesses are out to make profits. When GM makes an average of $10-15k profit off of each large SUV and they are selling strong even today- THAT is not a lousy pack of fools. My plant making these large SUVS has been on MAXIMUM overtime for the last 3 years and our operating plan has actually added ADDED more Saturday work just to try to meet demand.

2. Why not mention Toyota/Lexus and Nissan/Infinity with there large SUV's? They aren't a lousy pack of fools?? NOPE - they want some of the SUV money too.

3. GM has finally gotten on board with small cars and is not fully dependent on large trucks anymore. So, GM and Ford are making a wide range of vehicles for all tastes and budgets. What the heck more do you want????

4. It is the people buying the trucks (they WANT them!)- not the car companies forcing them on the people. We build what will sell - business 101 here.

5. You are wrong in that "there is so much money to be made by building intelligent vehicles" - if that were true we'd be selling small cars in larger volumes. Basically, a lot of people don't want these cars - even when gas hit $4 - many (myself included) did not care. Also - what exactly is an "intellegent" car?? Are you saying people with trucks are stupid?


As much as I'm all for efficient cars and driving sensibly I still agree with you 100% on this.
I would never own an Equinox but it keeps my business alive and if people want the Equinox, keep buying them!

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: MaximaGuy
Unless there is a road tax that is reflective of "choices" we are doomed and all these jokers in Washington keep saying "Freedom on oil dependence" ...


An extremely misinformed individual here. Please note that large trucks and SUV's pay a LOT more taxes in fuel, registration, etc., than smaller vehicles. Even more tax at purchase!

The other stuff is pure politics. Not going there.

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: dave1251
If you feel like the emissions of vehicles are affecting your quality of life I recommend getting out of California and moving to Antarctica there is not a whole lot of vehicles there. But make sure you stay away from volcanoes on the trip down I hear the emissions of volcanoes are out of control.


My 180 mph car is certified as an ULTRA low emissions vehicle.

Nothing comes out the pipe but flowers and bits of small economy cars!


Yes your car is. My car is. But the thousands of cars I have seen in California with either/or Baja California, Sonora Plates, or that are 20-50 years old are not. Not to mention the cars with the red piece of paper on the back windshield that is used for plates because the DMV will not issue new stickers for the owner of the car because the car will not pass emissions testing.

The bottom line is why in the world are people envious are others purchases? When I see the guy or gal driving in the neighborhood with their Lamborghini Gallardo I admire the car. I wonder how much that cost, but I do not think to myself why would someone by such a impractical car that owners are actually proud to own. If I had money to spend like that I doubt I would spend it on Gallardo. But I am not mad that someone would. If owning a vehicle brings a little joy to ones life who cares what kind it is? People could do a lot worst ill's to this world with the money spent on a SUV/Truck.

 

[dave1251]

This is full of errors and assumptions. I would not be able to keep it civil but I disagree with you.

 

[Spazdog]

Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: Spazdog
Originally Posted By: Trav
Why do you really give a rats rear what anyone buys or drives? You don't have to pay for it, maintain it or have anything to do with it.
Tell the real reason why this bothers you.


He's actually right. There are a LOT of trucks here that never see anything beyond passenger car duty. I just did a service on a Silverado 2500HD. The bed was unmarred by any scratches and the hitch receiver did not have any scratches on it as if it had never been used.

Personally, I'm not bothered by it. I'm amused by it.

If you ask them why they bought such a large heavy duty truck they often respond, "I can't drive no little-bitty car. I'm too hard on cars...." which I interpret as them admitting that they are bad drivers.
My position on this stance is further bolstered by the fact that they cannot manuever their own vehicles in and out of my garage without hitting the wall.
I have a client who is a cowgirl. Real cowgirl. Barrel Racer. 4'10" and maybe 90lbs in boots belt buckle and hat. Gorgeous little thing. She can manuever her F-350 SuperCrew in and out like nobody's business. Just like she was riding her Quarter Horse. Gooseneck horse trailer with living quarters goes exactly where she wants it to. But these "real men" who have to drive "real trucks" cannot. It's hilarious. I feel bad for them when they catch the side of the bed of their new 3/4 ton diesel on the 8" reinforced concrete wall...rather, I feel bad for the truck. But I am not offended. It's just funny to me.



LOL!! I live very near Arlington and think I know the girl you are talking about (I'm a horse owner myself). This F350 wouldn't happen to also be a King Ranch would it???


I already said too much for client confidentiality.

But if she barrel races as well as she handles that large truck and trailer....

 

[ls1mike]

Originally Posted By: SLCraig

As much as I'm all for efficient cars and driving sensibly I still agree with you 100% on this.
I would never own an Equinox but it keeps my business alive and if people want the Equinox, keep buying them!

Why no Equinox...

Hey I didn't want one either but happy wife, happy life. It has been pretty good too!

As far as the OP. Eihter will do. I am partial to the Tahoe because the 5.3 is proven and does very good.

And to the whiners, when your car is emitting flowers, water, getting 100 mpg and requiring no oil changes then you can throw some stones, until then you may want to board up your glass house.

 

[cptbarkey]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: MaximaGuy
Unless there is a road tax that is reflective of "choices" we are doomed and all these jokers in Washington keep saying "Freedom on oil dependence" ...


An extremely misinformed individual here. Please note that large trucks and SUV's pay a LOT more taxes in fuel, registration, etc., than smaller vehicles. Even more tax at purchase!

The other stuff is pure politics. Not going there.


Texas registration averages about 60 dollars for pickup trucks, while passenger cars push 75+. what was that you were saying?