never done cart. style filter anything to be extra careful about.Still looking for 65mm 14 flute oil cap wrench seem to be hard to come by in my area plus 0-20 oil.I guess I will use 5-20.Even toyota dealer does not have 0-20.Phoned imperial oil they dont have any as well.toyota dealer told me 0-20 would be dino.Toyota owners manuel says 0-20 is the preferred oil but can use 5-20.
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I have never seen a 0wXX dino. What does it say on the oil cap?
What part of BC are you from? If you are along the coast, I wouldn't even worry about using 0w20. 5w20 will work just fine.
Try out Wal Mart or Canadian Tire yet? They should have it in Pennzoil or Mobil if you look hard enough.
Try out Wal Mart or Canadian Tire yet? They should have it in Pennzoil or Mobil if you look hard enough.
Amazon.com has a 65mm wrench that fits perfectly.
You can get the wrench from NAPA for under $13. I used PP 5w30 for my first oil change.
Lube those O-rings well when you are putting the filter together and torque the body to the recommended spec. First time you discover the wheel, after that it becomes really easy.
One advantage of the cartridge type filter is that you can tear apart the old element easily and look for foreign matter.
One advantage of the cartridge type filter is that you can tear apart the old element easily and look for foreign matter.
I also have an 09 Corolla...I ordered the cup wrench for the filter from an auto parts place, 9$$ in southern Ontario...Also got a filterfrom the Stealership,Only have about 1000 kms on it, will change in a month or so...My suggestion is get 7000-10000 kms on it then change to mobil 1 0 w 20 that is my plan...
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it says on the oil cap 0-20 or 5-20
Yes. The Technical Service Bulleten (TSB) and the Owner's Manual both state that 5W-20 is OK. But, for better fuel economy & better cold starting performance use 0W-20.
More recently, Toyota announced 0W-20 across the board:
In the July 1, 2008 Edition of Flashpoint, ILMA has announced that Toyota has officially decided to switch the recommendation on engine oil for certain vehicles from SAE 5W20 and SAE 5W30 to SAE 0W20.
ILMA reports that these changes will affect all Toyota brands, including Toyota, Scion and Lexus. The change will also appear in owner's manuals.
No further information is offered on timing or specific vehicles.
Please read more about this announcement here:
http://newsmanager.commpartners.com/ilma/issues/2008-07-01/1.html
Here is a link to download the TSB:
http://www.chrysanindustries.com/pdf/products/toyota_tsb071002.pdf
More recently, Toyota announced 0W-20 across the board:
In the July 1, 2008 Edition of Flashpoint, ILMA has announced that Toyota has officially decided to switch the recommendation on engine oil for certain vehicles from SAE 5W20 and SAE 5W30 to SAE 0W20.
ILMA reports that these changes will affect all Toyota brands, including Toyota, Scion and Lexus. The change will also appear in owner's manuals.
No further information is offered on timing or specific vehicles.
Please read more about this announcement here:
http://newsmanager.commpartners.com/ilma/issues/2008-07-01/1.html
Here is a link to download the TSB:
http://www.chrysanindustries.com/pdf/products/toyota_tsb071002.pdf
Excellent information.
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More recently, Toyota announced 0W-20 across the board:
In the July 1, 2008 Edition of Flashpoint, ILMA has announced that Toyota has officially decided to switch the recommendation on engine oil for certain vehicles from SAE 5W20 and SAE 5W30 to SAE 0W20.
The dealerships should start reading these as not one I know of even stocks 0w20 around where I live. And its going to be real fun paying the $8-10/L they are going to charge when they do stock it.
More recently, Toyota announced 0W-20 across the board:
In the July 1, 2008 Edition of Flashpoint, ILMA has announced that Toyota has officially decided to switch the recommendation on engine oil for certain vehicles from SAE 5W20 and SAE 5W30 to SAE 0W20.
The dealerships should start reading these as not one I know of even stocks 0w20 around where I live. And its going to be real fun paying the $8-10/L they are going to charge when they do stock it.
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Toyota wrote to ILMA last week, asking us to inform our members about an upcoming change in engine oil recommendations that will affect Toyota, Lexus and Scion brand vehicles in North America.
So does Toyota recommend different Viscosity outside North America? If so whats the reason?
Toyota wrote to ILMA last week, asking us to inform our members about an upcoming change in engine oil recommendations that will affect Toyota, Lexus and Scion brand vehicles in North America.
So does Toyota recommend different Viscosity outside North America? If so whats the reason?
Yes. Until owners specifically request 0W-20, dealerships do not have any motivation to stock it.
0W-20 is mainly available in packaged/quart bottles = expensive.
However, some oil companies have recently announced that BULK 0W-20 is available. So, as demand increases, hopefully, the dealerships will stock in BULK = more reasonable cost.
Lexus dealerships are more likely to stock BULK 0W-20 as more Lexus vehicles require 0W-20.
HYBRIDS generally require 0W-20 as well for fuel economy.
This is especially relevant for hybrids since the engine starts & stops continuously as it goes back & forth from battery to engine power.
0W-20 is mainly available in packaged/quart bottles = expensive.
However, some oil companies have recently announced that BULK 0W-20 is available. So, as demand increases, hopefully, the dealerships will stock in BULK = more reasonable cost.
Lexus dealerships are more likely to stock BULK 0W-20 as more Lexus vehicles require 0W-20.
HYBRIDS generally require 0W-20 as well for fuel economy.
This is especially relevant for hybrids since the engine starts & stops continuously as it goes back & forth from battery to engine power.
I am for 0w20 but I am playing devils advocate a bit here.
You'd think if you wanted to make a statement about superior fuel economy and protection, the very works printed in the TSB over the 30wt oils, you would have it readily available, and it be competitively priced. I think there would be very few owners that own 2006-2008 toyotas listed ready for the 0w20 on that TSB that have been told about it from the dealership, or approached at oil change time from the dealership that hello, this is the new direction we are going with oils.
I highly doubt that the fuel savings alone for 0w20 at $8-10L would make up the difference over 0w30 at $4-5/L for 0w30 over an interval. The same goes for the conventional 5w20 vs 5w30, and people in general are having a hard time with it.
If toyota wanted to really make it mainstream and catch on, they would offer it at a very close price point difference and have the proof to back it up and let all the owners covered by that TSB know about it. After all they are trying to change the mindset of owners that have up until this point used 30wt oils, had they cars go for a gazillion miles and it worked just fine, why pay more for what they are unsure about and don't know.
You'd think if you wanted to make a statement about superior fuel economy and protection, the very works printed in the TSB over the 30wt oils, you would have it readily available, and it be competitively priced. I think there would be very few owners that own 2006-2008 toyotas listed ready for the 0w20 on that TSB that have been told about it from the dealership, or approached at oil change time from the dealership that hello, this is the new direction we are going with oils.
I highly doubt that the fuel savings alone for 0w20 at $8-10L would make up the difference over 0w30 at $4-5/L for 0w30 over an interval. The same goes for the conventional 5w20 vs 5w30, and people in general are having a hard time with it.
If toyota wanted to really make it mainstream and catch on, they would offer it at a very close price point difference and have the proof to back it up and let all the owners covered by that TSB know about it. After all they are trying to change the mindset of owners that have up until this point used 30wt oils, had they cars go for a gazillion miles and it worked just fine, why pay more for what they are unsure about and don't know.
I'm sorry I can't speak for Toyota.
I am just noting the industry trend to lower & lower viscosity:
10W-40 to 10w30 to 5w30 to 5W-20 to 0W-20. All in the name of fuel economy.
Yes. The 0W-20 is expensive due to higher grade base oils and primarily only available in packaged quarts. But, I would guess that as demand increases and dealerships stock in BULK, the cost will come down.
Actually, I believe the reason Toyota recommended BOTH the 0W-20 & the 5W-20 is because the 0W-20 was not readily available to the dealerships - until recently.
Now that 0W-20 is more available, they are recommending 0W-20 only going forward.
By the way, the same thing is happening with transmission fluids - lower viscosity ATFs for better fuel economy.
I am just noting the industry trend to lower & lower viscosity:
10W-40 to 10w30 to 5w30 to 5W-20 to 0W-20. All in the name of fuel economy.
Yes. The 0W-20 is expensive due to higher grade base oils and primarily only available in packaged quarts. But, I would guess that as demand increases and dealerships stock in BULK, the cost will come down.
Actually, I believe the reason Toyota recommended BOTH the 0W-20 & the 5W-20 is because the 0W-20 was not readily available to the dealerships - until recently.
Now that 0W-20 is more available, they are recommending 0W-20 only going forward.
By the way, the same thing is happening with transmission fluids - lower viscosity ATFs for better fuel economy.
Thanks for the inf
nly 0w-20 I can find is Amsoil my local auto parts store carry it. But would have to order in 0w-20.
nly 0w-20 I can find is Amsoil my local auto parts store carry it. But would have to order in 0w-20.Found it in Michigan at Yes, that place Wall Mart 23$$ 5 quarts....
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