Fairly low cost low micron remote mounts and elements

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Originally posted by XS650:
If you do want to filter water, may I be so bold as to suggest a water filter?
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Well i'm not on line during the day at work, so I do this in my spare time.
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As my specialty is more automotive or hydraulic..we don't do much in water filtration.
However, have a look in your business white pages and look for US Filter. They are a manufacturer who have branches everywhere and their specialty is water filtration. Especially industrial type.

You might get lucky and get someone with some tech knowledge who can answer something on specs.

Gary as your in Penn.. there is a water filtration company hq'd there. Knight Filtration, in Ardmore. knightcorp.com
or 1-800-345-8374

I've got some other manufacturers from an filtration industry buyers guide if either of those suggestions don't pan out.

[ November 29, 2004, 09:53 PM: Message edited by: Filter guy ]
 
Gary..btw..we do sell some string wound filters where I work.

There are , like any filtration, multiple types of "string" to make elements with. From straight cotton, to FDA approved cotton, polyester, to nomex ( yep, the stuff that's used for fire suits).

I sold some that need to be used to filter heat transfer fluid that had a max temp of 500 degrees. What we sold was the next level under nomex. ( brand name escapes me at the mo).

But string wound is used for hydraulics, food processing, water, and multiple applications.
 
HO-KAY,

We drifted ..off the original topic of cheap spin-ons from MMC. They appear to be a decent filter alternative for many who want fine filtration that appears to be so hard to find. Most of us can't just dial up a 3-5 um filter ..anywhere too easily.

But we moved from that ..to:
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Now for the ultimate engine filtration (ta-da!) ..I've got a 27"x4" cylindrical PALL canister filter. Schultz hooked me up with the part # from McMaster. Wait until you see that mounted on my intake plenum . 1um rating @ 150 psi max and 6 gpm flow (I assume water is what they use to rate the flow). The element is 20x2.5 double open end -wound cotton with SS center tube. Can't wait to figure out how long that thing takes to plug up. That I should have together this week.

This monster I am installing on my Caravan just to see how it does. The thing uses cotton wound filters. It's 1um ..and rated @ 6 gpm. It cost about $9-10 each. The canister could fit two paper towel rolls or three or fout TP rolls if I decided to use it that way.

Schultzie turned me on to the numbers in McM.

This is where we got side tracked on the 6 gpm flow business..
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Filterguy:

Here's what I'm using in my PALL

4411K46
String-Wound Filter Cartridge Cotton, 20" 304 SS Core Cartridge, 1 Micron

Got a better deal for me????
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It's surprising what you can find out (sometimes) by asking.

You're probably right. I guess I have just gotten conditioned to too many "your call is very important to us ..please wait on the line ..." to use that as my first option. McMaster does have a decent amount of detail in their catalog ..which is nice considering consumers aren't their target market ...sorta like a JC Whitney or Sears Robuck of yester year for commercial or industrial users. I tried to see if that gauge was offered anywhere else in the catalog as a generic application. It's not under that part number ..but 1 1/2" center threaded 0-15 gauges are about $10 elsewhere on the site.

Filterguy:

Thank you for the effort. This is a very old unit. They do have a current unit that resembles it. It fits 20" DOE (double open end) filters. Problably CG has evolved to HG ..HH ..etc. Schultz (Tim) deciphered most of what I needed to know ...and PALL is very expensive. These elements from MMC were about $9 and are 1um. If you've got any mileage left in your effort (thank you kindly
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) you can find out what the industry applies for a flow spec ..that is ..water? It's hard to figure out what conditions are used to come up with the numbers that they list.

Can we assume that all our viscosity numbers, like our spef grav # are based on H20 as "1"?? I missed this little factoid in my lifelong osmotic uptake of knowledge if it is so
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. And to think ..one of my highschool classmates father was one of the three "Brookfields" (brothers) of THE Brookfield Engineering (the viscometers). Who gave a darn when you were a teenager
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Originally posted by Gary Allan:
This monster I am installing on my Caravan just to see how it does. The thing uses cotton wound filters. It's 1um ..and rated @ 6 gpm. It cost about $9-10 each. The canister could fit two paper towel rolls or three or fout TP rolls if I decided to use it that way.

Throw a little Valvoline Synpower Oil Treatment in it occasionally, and you can probably drive it 'till the wheels fall off without changing the oil with a filter like that.
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I'll try and post a image of it when I get it installed ...my wrench asked me what I was doing (I get to play around his shop pretty much as I please = he's a good friend) ...all he could do was roll his eyes.
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It's an oil thing ...he doesn't understand.
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btw- I just got a dozen of those nxxxyyyzzz magnets in the mail. MAN ..you can't use them as refridg magnets unless you have a stack of them sitting near by ...you just can't pull them off easy enough. Should do just fine for attacting stray Fe.
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Gary..I said we sell them, not stock them..
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I'll contact our supplier.

But what's your ID for the core? One inch? And what's your OD?

But we don't sell consumers and don't take credit cards. We sell other distributors.
 
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But what's your ID for the core? One inch? And what's your OD?

But we don't sell consumers and don't take credit cards. We sell other distributors.

Naturally
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(visions of McCoy as Spoke said, "but the xxxyyzz is no longer constant")

They're 1" ID ..and up to 3 1/2 OD X 20" L.

BTW- McMaster is VERY reasonable for S&H on a small order. Grainger was higher and required a purchase of 6 of these at a time. Then again, I imagine that more established customers get a different price schedule. My biggest expence was the SS 1 1/4 x 3/8 reducer bushings ($13 each
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) ..they are REAL steep compared to 1" and under. Naturally in my stash ..I have only 1" or under
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[ May 30, 2005, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: Gary Allan ]
 
Gary:

My Pall distibutor came through.

If you were to order a new housing assembly the part number would be:
CCL1002G16H13

They're still made...
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Now the question is..what micron rating are you looking for in the element for the Pall housing?

Then I can take it further.
 
Thank you very much. That number may come in handy. I've currently got 1 um 2.5"x20" cotton wounds from MMC ..they are cheap enough. I would imagine that PALL would be very expensive. If you have access to what you think is a comparable product for a generic price (no FDA, etc. QC $$ attached to it) ..then by all means ..please ..turn me on to a source that will deal on the plebe/consumer/small customer scale. Otherwise I'm probably good for around 20k miles (I hope)

Thanks very much for getting that model # straight for me.
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Give me another day.

Pall hasn't got back on what their element number is, with pricing. ( how's your credit card..lol)

The string wound, I think I may have an option for you on that as well. I'm getting pricing on 2-1/2" and 3 1/2" OD's. 2 1/2 is more the industry standard, is what I was told.
 
Gary: Check your email.

As string wound is not my specialty I knew they had various medias but here's what they offer:

Bleached Cotton FDA
White Cotton
Natural Cotton
Industrial PP
FDA PP
Fib PP
Fiberglass
Polyester
Nylon
Acrylic
Rayon
and Special media's

With micron ratings from .5 to 350.

Learned more than I wanted to..lol
 
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