Engine Start/Stop Vehicles

What do you mean by that? Most cars have a button where you can turn it off, it's just not permanently. Don't have it yet so don't know if it will bother me that much. I've rented cars with it, just got used to it. It's the same with my heated seats, it has a button you hit to turn it on and it slowly shuts itself off after 20 minutes so it's just another button to hit on a cold morning, can't leave it on by default.
The 2018 Malibu didn't have the option to turn it off. The only way we could disable it was by putting the gear shifter into manual shift mode, then you have to push the + button all the way up to 6 so it'll go all the way through the gears once you drive.
 
There was some kind've Chrysler next to me at a light on the way home from work. That thing was totally spazzing out! It was sitting perfectly still and it kept starting stopping starting stopping. I was like, what the hell is going on with that thing?
 
Good luck. ⬛
I am honestly just wondering why everyone is always rude to me on here. I try to help then you say things and hurt my feelings I am just explaining why it would be an issue over an ignition switch we see lots more come in. My comment is very accurate think when you turn the key it goes back so it takes the stress off then you don’t put that stress on it when you cut it off because you go the other way. On a button you have to press it both times to do it so it wears faster.
 
I am honestly just wondering why everyone is always rude to me on here. I try to help then you say things and hurt my feelings I am just explaining why it would be an issue over an ignition switch we see lots more come in. My comment is very accurate think when you turn the key it goes back so it takes the stress off then you don’t put that stress on it when you cut it off because you go the other way. On a button you have to press it both times to do it so it wears faster.
It's not being rude it's just that a lot of your posts defy your username. "All that pressure"? You make it seem like there's tons of pressure on the switch like 1k lbs./sq. in. If replacement is ever necessary I think it'd be a whole lot easier than a regular key ignition.
 
It's not being rude it's just that a lot of your posts defy your username. "All that pressure"? You make it seem like there's tons of pressure on the switch like 1k lbs./sq. in. If replacement is ever necessary I think it'd be a whole lot easier than a regular key ignition.
I just always speak based on experience. I mean the buttons aren’t that complicated to replace getting the wiring that goes to it is hardest. I know some people put aggressive force on them like constant hard presses.
 
I wish my F250 had auto s s
I have had so many hybrids that I prefer it and Ford is the smoothest out there. Honda never got it right from the cars I had.
It's what you get used too.
 
I wish my F250 had auto s s
I have had so many hybrids that I prefer it and Ford is the smoothest out there. Honda never got it right from the cars I had.
It's what you get used too.
Ford makes some really good hybrid cars. I am in the process of getting Ford Hybrid Certified. Personally I don’t know if I will enjoy working on them LOL. I already completed the training for the regular cars and everything.
 
Back in 1991 I got a new lathe with all new plastic push buttons. The on button was a twist to engage and I figured this Crap would last a few years. Wasn't thrilled as I run that lathe hard daily. I used it today and it still has all the original plastic buttons and
most likely they will outlast me. Weird but true and the plastic even looks cheap as well...
 
Back in 1991 I got a new lathe with all new plastic push buttons. The on button was a twist to engage and I figured this Crap would last a few years. Wasn't thrilled as I run that lathe hard daily. I used it today and it still has all the original plastic buttons and
most likely they will outlast me. Weird but true and the plastic even looks cheap as well...
That’s great.
 
Ford makes some really good hybrid cars. I am in the process of getting Ford Hybrid Certified. Personally I don’t know if I will enjoy working on them LOL. I already completed the training for the regular cars and everything.

Yes Ford does.....
Plus they get great mpg even though they are heavy and they make good power. Look at what the Cmax weighs.
 
I don't mind it most of the time. The Escape is more pronounced than other vehicles I've driven with it but not bad.
If I have to work in Boston, no way man, I have to turn it off. Traffic has been less due to Covid so I find I'm not reaching for the disable button as much.
 
I am honestly just wondering why everyone is always rude to me on here. I try to help then you say things and hurt my feelings I am just explaining why it would be an issue over an ignition switch we see lots more come in. My comment is very accurate think when you turn the key it goes back so it takes the stress off then you don’t put that stress on it when you cut it off because you go the other way. On a button you have to press it both times to do it so it wears faster.
You should look up Dunning Kruger. I think you mean well and I'm sorry others are hard on you. But some of them on here have been working on cars for a lot longer time. I also go my degree in electrical engineering so some of your statements don't make sense because you're making assumptions about how the engineering was done. You can design a switch to last 100,000 times or 1,000,000 times or more. Just depends what costs and constraints your have in the design. Basically a push button is a different switch than one that you turn. They don't automatically have the same life but it could be true on the Toyotas that you work on, other makes could be different. The button failing on a Mercedes is not common although the electronic ignition system does fail, but that's more of an electronic/chip fault rather than the switch wearing out.
 
I am honestly just wondering why everyone is always rude to me on here. I try to help then you say things and hurt my feelings I am just explaining why it would be an issue over an ignition switch we see lots more come in. My comment is very accurate think when you turn the key it goes back so it takes the stress off then you don’t put that stress on it when you cut it off because you go the other way. On a button you have to press it both times to do it so it wears faster.
No worries. Since everybody knows everything and everyone got 40 years of experience on day 1, well people gotta run people down.
I learn from everyone here, including you. All good. Keep pulling those wrenches.

This whole thread, IMO, is kinda riduclous. A good stop start system, like the one in our Lexus RX hybrid, works fine and helps return good mileage.
 
You should look up Dunning Kruger. I think you mean well and I'm sorry others are hard on you. But some of them on here have been working on cars for a lot longer time. I also go my degree in electrical engineering so some of your statements don't make sense because you're making assumptions about how the engineering was done. You can design a switch to last 100,000 times or 1,000,000 times or more. Just depends what costs and constraints your have in the design. Basically a push button is a different switch than one that you turn. They don't automatically have the same life but it could be true on the Toyotas that you work on, other makes could be different. The button failing on a Mercedes is not common although the electronic ignition system does fail, but that's more of an electronic/chip fault rather than the switch wearing out.
I understand that and I totally respect what they know and their opinions. On the Toyota training it even tells you that the push button start systems may have more issues than the keyed systems just they are used because of luxury and customer wants. Their is a two hour module you have to do just on them so they do train you well for if something does go wrong.
 
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