Engine Cleaniness off German Castrol

[Christopher Jefferson]

Ja, das stimmt! Von/aus = in english is the word from.

Ich mochte motorenol von deutchland gehen. es ist deutch ein wenig und es ist mir nicht guten. mir motorenol bruders Gutenacht!

 

[Motorbike]

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Originally posted by Primus:
BIGJ552000,
The question was how GC keeps engine clean. I used SLX and found that it does not outperform in cleanness the majority of other oils. In order to give an idea what I could see through the filler cap of my car after 7500 km with SLX I made the link to Oilcanboyd picture. This was a thin layer of soot and of a very specific color: I met it only with GC. After GC I filled Elf Synthese 0W-40 and found that it washed this layer out. BTW, Elf 5W-40, used before GC, did not perform well as 0W-40. Similar soot layer, but with a light brownish color,

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Thank you for your input on this topic .

 

[oilcanboyd]

i recently removed my valvecover again to check my timing b/c my car wasnt starting. i looked at the valve train and it looks clean. the only thing that i cleaned was the cam caps and under the valve cover after i took that picture. the rest of the valve train i left alone. since then ive ran chevron supreme 10w-30, GC 0w-30, castrol syntec 10w-40, and currently GC. i still have to do a valve adjustment so ill take some picture then and you can judge for yourself. and i also replaced my pcv valve and it was working properly. my motor still runs rich but i have plans to fix that.

 

[BIGJ552000]

Cool, Thanks for the update

 

[moribundman]

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Originally posted by pscholte:
Die Elfe sind zärtlich von BMW. (The Elves are fond of BMW.)

should be "zaertlich zu", not "von"...

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Actually, "zärtlich" means "tender" in the sensual sense. The grammar is horrendous, too. What you're essentially saying is that the elves are getting it on with a BMW.

 

[gogozy]

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Originally posted by oilcanboyd:
i recently removed my valvecover again to check my timing b/c my car wasnt starting. i looked at the valve train and it looks clean. the only thing that i cleaned was the cam caps and under the valve cover after i took that picture. the rest of the valve train i left alone. since then ive ran chevron supreme 10w-30, GC 0w-30, castrol syntec 10w-40, and currently GC. i still have to do a valve adjustment so ill take some picture then and you can judge for yourself. and i also replaced my pcv valve and it was working properly. my motor still runs rich but i have plans to fix that.

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thanks, lookforward to see your pics~~
a side note, not sure if this is GC's good work or what, i use fuel system cleaner in gas at 9,000km (previously with Honda factory oil at then GTX5W30 at 6000km) and and saw lots of black stuff at my tail pipe after. i wipe it clean and then change to GC, added another fuel cleaner at 16000km and there is little or no carbon at til pipe. some people says my TSX let lots oil get intoP PCV and EGR system and cause carbon build up, is synthetic oil more resistant to carbonize and carbon build up? can someone help? thanks...

 

[Terry]

One thing I am watching for is a possible sludge problem with a Australian formula of this product that was recorded by one of our BITOG regulars.

I currently have GC in a extended drain test using LC as a add and have just passed 10,000 miles in Audi/VW 2.0L 4cylinder with no apparant issues to date.


TD

 

[Primus]

Given SLX approvals and its long year history the oil itself has to be OK. The questions and doubts come when you realize that it has been discontinued in many countries, but still available in Germany, Austria, Belgium and may be in Switzerland. What was the reason of such step: some issues caused by certain local conditions like inappropriate gas quality or manufacturing cost ? If it's manufacturing cost, why to ship tons to the N.A. and sell at $ 6-7/qt instead of $ 10-15/l in Europe ? I am glad (and not jealous

) that SLX performs well in your engines, but I would not praise a single oil and make you an idol, more over that this oil may disappear like it has appeared. You have number of wonderful US origin oils and if they are sold in Europe at your prices, they would be the best choice oils in many countries. At the same time I believe that competitors environment will make many European companies come to the N.A. market soon and then you will have a real possibility to compare performances and make you an idol.

BTW, anybody knows whether gas quality may somehow cause engine oil gelatinization ?

 

[Losiho]

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Originally posted by Primus:
Given SLX approvals and its long year history the oil itself has to be OK. The questions and doubts come when you realize that it has been discontinued in many countries,

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I have a suspicion that SLX was discontinued here in Oz simply because of the SAE viscosity. In a country where old habits die hard, old fashioned beliefs are held, and where 40w70 is available, I think people may have seen a 0w30 as being too "thin", hence poor sales.

 

[Primus]

SLX was so thin for Oz that Castrol fathers have decided to substitute 12.2 cSt 0W-30 SLX by 12.9 cSt 0W-40 RS

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[Losiho]

The average person wouldn't know what cSt means. And it's much easier to market any Xw40 down here compared to a 30w.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Yeah, what countries was the SLX pulled out of (apart from Australia)? Are they generally warm-weather countries where using something like 0w-30 is unheard of? In order for sales to pick up, Castrol (or any other oil company for that matter) would have to do a ton of marketing to convince the masses that it's OK to use such a thin oil (it's not really that thin as we know), and still a lot of people will just ignore it and hold onto their beliefs.

On the other hand, southern parts of the US can be considered a warm-weather environment, yet grades like 0w-30 and 0w-20 are being sold. Here, however, it's the car manufacturers who specify that such grades may and even should be used.

Even in Poland, which is relatively cold, oils like SLX aren't very popular. Most people feel that 0w-30 is just too thin and they refuse to use anything thinner than Xw-40. And since car manufacturers don't mandate the use of one single grade but rather provide a temperature graph with a list of options, people don't feel the need to use 0w-30.

 

[pscholte]

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Originally posted by moribundman:

quote:

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Originally posted by pscholte:
Die Elfe sind zärtlich von BMW. (The Elves are fond of BMW.)

should be "zaertlich zu", not "von"...

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Actually, "zärtlich" means "tender" in the sensual sense. The grammar is horrendous, too. What you're essentially saying is that the elves are getting it on with a BMW.

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I'd like to put this all to rest. Few know, and so there is no blame to those who commented, that Elvish Deutsch is colloquial, derived from forms with which few are familiar...therefore meanings are not often not very close to commonly spoken German or to High German. SO, unless you have personally asked the Elves what they meant OR if the Elves have interpreted, please do not assume you know what they are saying...unless of course, you are very familiar with the Elvish form.