http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/21/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-lawandlife-idUS157066465220120321 It's bad enough and silly enough to be looking at people's Facebook page as a screening consideraion for hiring, but asking for your password? These employers are getting to be as bad as communists.
Employers asking for facebook password
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I don't have a problem if they have me login to facebook but to actually give them the password is a little bit much. What are they going to do next, ask for the keys to my house so they can inspect it before they hire me.
When they log into my account the phrase
"Thomas, you have 2 friends" might be equally [censored]
"Thomas, you have 2 friends" might be equally [censored]
What do they do if you have no facebook account? I don't.
I'd have to tell them that I don't have a FB account and have no desire to have one. If I want someone to know anything about what I'm doing that is why I have a phone and email.
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I'd have to tell them that I don't have a FB account and have no desire to have one. If I want someone to know anything about what I'm doing that is why I have a phone and email.
And I'm not a fan of them having that information. If I'm not at work, on the clock, don't bother me. They get 24% of my week on the clock, not including commute and other time spent commuting. If you need to contact me out of work, snail mail it. I tend to side with Ron Swanson from Parks and Recreation (Sitcom). Why would they need such a personal piece of my information? I'll see you tomorrow morning anyway.
I'd have to tell them that I don't have a FB account and have no desire to have one. If I want someone to know anything about what I'm doing that is why I have a phone and email.
And I'm not a fan of them having that information. If I'm not at work, on the clock, don't bother me. They get 24% of my week on the clock, not including commute and other time spent commuting. If you need to contact me out of work, snail mail it. I tend to side with Ron Swanson from Parks and Recreation (Sitcom). Why would they need such a personal piece of my information? I'll see you tomorrow morning anyway.
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/21/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-lawandlife-idUS157066465220120321 It's bad enough and silly enough to be looking at people's Facebook page as a screening consideraion for hiring, but asking for your password? These employers are getting to be as bad as communists.
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Giving out your Facebook password currently violates the social network's terms of service. In fact, entering someone else's account could be deemed a federal crime according to the Department of Justice. But at a recent congressional hearing, they made it clear such violations would not be prosecuted.
Short and simple answer if asked for it:
"So you're asking me to violate the terms of service of an entity I've entered into an agreement with as well as assist you with something that could be deemed a felony?"
And I remember reading about this particular city a year or so ago:
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Until last year, the city of Bozeman, Mont., had a long-standing policy of asking job applicants for passwords to their email addresses, social-networking websites and other online accounts.
Why sure, here have access to all my private online information including my banking statements, email reminders for doctors appointments, records of what I've purchased from Amazon... Would you like to come rifle through my mail as well as the magazine rack in my bathroom?
Ran across this little gem as well that makes a very good point. All of those things are in the cannot ask category during an interview. You can voluntarily disclose, but they cannot ask.
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i have had this come up. I just told the prospective employer that I did not have a facebook account, and even if I did it would be illegal because they can use it to see if i have children, married, or how old I am. I then gave them the address to my LinkIn account which is publicly available.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/21/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-lawandlife-idUS157066465220120321 It's bad enough and silly enough to be looking at people's Facebook page as a screening consideraion for hiring, but asking for your password? These employers are getting to be as bad as communists.
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Giving out your Facebook password currently violates the social network's terms of service. In fact, entering someone else's account could be deemed a federal crime according to the Department of Justice. But at a recent congressional hearing, they made it clear such violations would not be prosecuted.
Short and simple answer if asked for it:
"So you're asking me to violate the terms of service of an entity I've entered into an agreement with as well as assist you with something that could be deemed a felony?"
And I remember reading about this particular city a year or so ago:
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Until last year, the city of Bozeman, Mont., had a long-standing policy of asking job applicants for passwords to their email addresses, social-networking websites and other online accounts.
Why sure, here have access to all my private online information including my banking statements, email reminders for doctors appointments, records of what I've purchased from Amazon... Would you like to come rifle through my mail as well as the magazine rack in my bathroom?
Ran across this little gem as well that makes a very good point. All of those things are in the cannot ask category during an interview. You can voluntarily disclose, but they cannot ask.
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i have had this come up. I just told the prospective employer that I did not have a facebook account, and even if I did it would be illegal because they can use it to see if i have children, married, or how old I am. I then gave them the address to my LinkIn account which is publicly available.
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Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
When they log into my account the phrase
"Thomas, you have 2 friends" might be equally [censored]
Yeah really, is the employer going to consider you based on how many friends you have and how cool and intersting your page is? Just wanting to see an applicant's Facebook suggests the hiring criteria is really just a popularity contest.
When they log into my account the phrase
"Thomas, you have 2 friends" might be equally [censored]
Yeah really, is the employer going to consider you based on how many friends you have and how cool and intersting your page is? Just wanting to see an applicant's Facebook suggests the hiring criteria is really just a popularity contest.
If they are asking for my Facebook info, then what stops them from going through the text messages on my phone?
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If they are asking for my Facebook info, then what stops them from going through the text messages on my phone?
That's what i'm saying, the line has to be drawn somewhere.
If they are asking for my Facebook info, then what stops them from going through the text messages on my phone?
That's what i'm saying, the line has to be drawn somewhere.
No matter how this is spun, this is a unacceptable intrusion into personal privacy!! There is no valid purpose served no matter what the stated justification may be. This is a privacy issue equally as important as if a government agency was demanding this same information from you. I can see a governmental/private purpose served if your job requires a top secret clearance; where the national security may be at stake, then that may be a worthy requirement.
I'm very happy that I'm not young enough to be job seeking in this kind of environment--if I were requested to give such, or similar information, I would immediately announce the job interview is over. Thank you for your time, but I'm not interested in working for a company that is so self important and/or paranoid as to feel the need for such a requirement when my own government could not-would not routinely require my compliance! Workers of the world, unite, you have nothing to lose but your freedom!
I'm very happy that I'm not young enough to be job seeking in this kind of environment--if I were requested to give such, or similar information, I would immediately announce the job interview is over. Thank you for your time, but I'm not interested in working for a company that is so self important and/or paranoid as to feel the need for such a requirement when my own government could not-would not routinely require my compliance! Workers of the world, unite, you have nothing to lose but your freedom!
we were discussing this at the shop and my friends girl friend said she has a facebook account with all bogus info... I asked her why and she said her name is correct (she has a common name) but everything else is not...even her friends...lol
I dont have a facebook account i know who is snooping around looking for information and instead of wasting everyones time with bogus info i just don't use facebook
I dont have a facebook account i know who is snooping around looking for information and instead of wasting everyones time with bogus info i just don't use facebook
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I dont have a facebook account i know who is snooping around looking for information and instead of wasting everyones time with bogus info i just don't use facebook
The only purpose mine serves is so relatives can see pics of our son and for me to monitor updates on different church events.
Privacy issues aside, I'm curious as to how employers (and their attorneys) are not seeing how the information they are asking access to violates the list of "questions you're not allowed to ask": religion, marital status, etc.
They can't claim its voluntary disclosure if they are requiring the password as a condition for the interview. I'm honestly surprised that no one has sued over this aspect of it.
I dont have a facebook account i know who is snooping around looking for information and instead of wasting everyones time with bogus info i just don't use facebook
The only purpose mine serves is so relatives can see pics of our son and for me to monitor updates on different church events.
Privacy issues aside, I'm curious as to how employers (and their attorneys) are not seeing how the information they are asking access to violates the list of "questions you're not allowed to ask": religion, marital status, etc.
They can't claim its voluntary disclosure if they are requiring the password as a condition for the interview. I'm honestly surprised that no one has sued over this aspect of it.
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Originally Posted By: spasm3
What do they do if you have no facebook account? I don't.
They'll just assume you're a lonely old man with no friends, and not hire you anyway.
Just kidding, of course. But I do get asked often - "Why don't you have Facebook? What's the matter, don't you have any friends?".
What do they do if you have no facebook account? I don't.
They'll just assume you're a lonely old man with no friends, and not hire you anyway.
Just kidding, of course. But I do get asked often - "Why don't you have Facebook? What's the matter, don't you have any friends?".
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