Yup, Duratracs will be my next winter tire, mudders (MT's) for the summer from now on!
Drove without Snowtires (and wiper) yesterday!
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The problem with the Duratracs is they are cost prohibitive in the size I run on my Jeep - I'd be looking at close to $1000 for a set of 4.
Mud tires don't do so well on hard packed snow and ice. I slid backwards down a hill at about 45 last winter. The only damage was to the drivers seat.
I'm hoping by next winter to be able to purchase a set of studded Goodyear Workhorse tires off of my parents to run on the Cherokee.
Mud tires don't do so well on hard packed snow and ice. I slid backwards down a hill at about 45 last winter. The only damage was to the drivers seat.
I'm hoping by next winter to be able to purchase a set of studded Goodyear Workhorse tires off of my parents to run on the Cherokee.
Originally Posted By: Miller88
The problem with the Duratracs is they are cost prohibitive in the size I run on my Jeep - I'd be looking at close to $1000 for a set of 4.
Mud tires don't do so well on hard packed snow and ice. I slid backwards down a hill at about 45 last winter. The only damage was to the drivers seat.
I'm hoping by next winter to be able to purchase a set of studded Goodyear Workhorse tires off of my parents to run on the Cherokee.
I run E rated tires on my 3/4 ton so $1,000.00 is typical anyway. Duratracs are ice and snow rated too. You are right about typical MT tires being bad in ice/snow. Tread isn't suited for it (no to little siping) and they tend to be much wider as well = ice skates!
The problem with the Duratracs is they are cost prohibitive in the size I run on my Jeep - I'd be looking at close to $1000 for a set of 4.
Mud tires don't do so well on hard packed snow and ice. I slid backwards down a hill at about 45 last winter. The only damage was to the drivers seat.
I'm hoping by next winter to be able to purchase a set of studded Goodyear Workhorse tires off of my parents to run on the Cherokee.
I run E rated tires on my 3/4 ton so $1,000.00 is typical anyway. Duratracs are ice and snow rated too. You are right about typical MT tires being bad in ice/snow. Tread isn't suited for it (no to little siping) and they tend to be much wider as well = ice skates!
Originally Posted By: ridgerunner
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: ridgerunner
Originally Posted By: Rand
sounds like some kind of mechanical problem. The vast majority seem very happy with their CS4's
No mechanical issues and the "vast majority" doesn't drive my local roads. CS4's suck!
We had snow and ice covered roads last week and the h/v rated CS4s we have on the car performed great. Do you have the T rated? I've head the h/v has a lot better traction due the 5 rows of tread instead of 4 on the T rated. To wear out in 11k, something sounds amiss. How are your AT3s doing in the bad weather?
Last yr's I ran the AT3's in two snow storms (only ones we had all winter) and they did great. They were on my Dodge 3/4 ton truck. I still have my old Mich LTX A/S on there now and just got over a foot of snow last night. Soon as it gets light out I'll find out how those tires work while plowing (not holding my breath). Not sure exactly what CS4's she had but they were terrible in the wet and snow. Like I said they wore out very quickly.
Pic. of the Mich A/S. Were OK in snow while plowing but would rather have the AT3's.
Pic of 14" of snow on my Dodge w/ plow (and pup).
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: ridgerunner
Originally Posted By: Rand
sounds like some kind of mechanical problem. The vast majority seem very happy with their CS4's
No mechanical issues and the "vast majority" doesn't drive my local roads. CS4's suck!
We had snow and ice covered roads last week and the h/v rated CS4s we have on the car performed great. Do you have the T rated? I've head the h/v has a lot better traction due the 5 rows of tread instead of 4 on the T rated. To wear out in 11k, something sounds amiss. How are your AT3s doing in the bad weather?
Last yr's I ran the AT3's in two snow storms (only ones we had all winter) and they did great. They were on my Dodge 3/4 ton truck. I still have my old Mich LTX A/S on there now and just got over a foot of snow last night. Soon as it gets light out I'll find out how those tires work while plowing (not holding my breath). Not sure exactly what CS4's she had but they were terrible in the wet and snow. Like I said they wore out very quickly.
Pic. of the Mich A/S. Were OK in snow while plowing but would rather have the AT3's.
Pic of 14" of snow on my Dodge w/ plow (and pup).
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Originally Posted By: ridgerunner
Originally Posted By: Miller88
The problem with the Duratracs is they are cost prohibitive in the size I run on my Jeep - I'd be looking at close to $1000 for a set of 4.
Mud tires don't do so well on hard packed snow and ice. I slid backwards down a hill at about 45 last winter. The only damage was to the drivers seat.
I'm hoping by next winter to be able to purchase a set of studded Goodyear Workhorse tires off of my parents to run on the Cherokee.
I run E rated tires on my 3/4 ton so $1,000.00 is typical anyway. Duratracs are ice and snow rated too. You are right about typical MT tires being bad in ice/snow. Tread isn't suited for it (no to little siping) and they tend to be much wider as well = ice skates!
My E rated mud tires (recaps) were about $500. They're narrow so pretty good in the slush and the light pack snow ... but anything hard packed or ice ... I"m done.
Originally Posted By: Miller88
The problem with the Duratracs is they are cost prohibitive in the size I run on my Jeep - I'd be looking at close to $1000 for a set of 4.
Mud tires don't do so well on hard packed snow and ice. I slid backwards down a hill at about 45 last winter. The only damage was to the drivers seat.
I'm hoping by next winter to be able to purchase a set of studded Goodyear Workhorse tires off of my parents to run on the Cherokee.
I run E rated tires on my 3/4 ton so $1,000.00 is typical anyway. Duratracs are ice and snow rated too. You are right about typical MT tires being bad in ice/snow. Tread isn't suited for it (no to little siping) and they tend to be much wider as well = ice skates!
My E rated mud tires (recaps) were about $500. They're narrow so pretty good in the slush and the light pack snow ... but anything hard packed or ice ... I"m done.
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The converse end is that driving around on all-seasons over the years you get great driving skills in the snow. My wife is amazing at winter driving as she grew up with $500 Japanese FWD econoboxes with cheap all-seasons. She can drive really well in winter conditions. She understands so well how to brake, stop and go. She has AWD now but still amazes me in rentals.
I had a crutch of having 4wd and AWD(AMC eagle & Subaru) growing up. The first time I drove a FWD I was pretty bad at it. Then I purchased winter biased (Nokian) all-season tires and learned. Finally back to AWD.
I had a crutch of having 4wd and AWD(AMC eagle & Subaru) growing up. The first time I drove a FWD I was pretty bad at it. Then I purchased winter biased (Nokian) all-season tires and learned. Finally back to AWD.
Originally Posted By: rjundi
The converse end is that driving around on all-seasons over the years you get great driving skills in the snow. My wife is amazing at winter driving as she grew up with $500 Japanese FWD econoboxes with cheap all-seasons. She can drive really well in winter conditions. She understands so well how to brake, stop and go. She has AWD now but still amazes me in rentals.
I had a crutch of having 4wd and AWD(AMC eagle & Subaru) growing up. The first time I drove a FWD I was pretty bad at it. Then I purchased winter biased (Nokian) all-season tires and learned. Finally back to AWD.
I learned winter driving in an extended cab S-10 pick up manual shift 2WD! I hated stopping at a light or stop sign that was on a hill.
The converse end is that driving around on all-seasons over the years you get great driving skills in the snow. My wife is amazing at winter driving as she grew up with $500 Japanese FWD econoboxes with cheap all-seasons. She can drive really well in winter conditions. She understands so well how to brake, stop and go. She has AWD now but still amazes me in rentals.
I had a crutch of having 4wd and AWD(AMC eagle & Subaru) growing up. The first time I drove a FWD I was pretty bad at it. Then I purchased winter biased (Nokian) all-season tires and learned. Finally back to AWD.
I learned winter driving in an extended cab S-10 pick up manual shift 2WD! I hated stopping at a light or stop sign that was on a hill.
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