Danica Patrick Racing NASCAR

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...and how many current NASCAR drivers have ever tried an Indycar, besides prior Indycar drivers? Running 230 wheel to wheel?

Zero. Thus, they have no right to an opinion. Not that the sanctioning body would allow them one. I forgot, NASCAR doesn't allow their drivers to race outside of NASCAR, unless it is a publicity stunt for NASCAR.

Yet, the sanctioning body/propaganda ministry has such regular negative opinion on Indycars and Formula 1.

I'm guessing that if you put any of Hendrick's Sprint Cup drivers in any Indycar but Penske or Ganassi's Indycars they would be winless. And not because they aren't talented.

Same goes the other way around. Penske and Ganassi aren't the same in NASCAR, as they are in Indycar. Nor would the NASCAR teams be, if they switched. Two different animals.

Danica is a good driver. Not a great one. She will also be good in NASCAR, not great. Not a surprise.

Franchitti ran for a mid-pack team at the time with a learning curve. Woulda done a lot better at Hendrick, but that's not a good story for NASCAR.
 
Drama on wheels. Most competitions are morphing (have been) more into the category of entertainment.

..and let's not forget the esteemed sponsors here:

Does the driver look like "BOB"??

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and a favorite in passing as I flip through the ever increasing amount of paid programming on cable..

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Originally Posted By: ffracer


Yet, the sanctioning body/propaganda ministry has such regular negative opinion on Indycars and Formula 1.



Right. Because the snobs in those 2 organizations berate Nascar as being not as challenging. Then, when someone like Scott Speed or Patrick Carpentier tries to run Nascar, they get OWNED!
 
Originally Posted By: ffracer
...and how many current NASCAR drivers have ever tried an Indycar, besides prior Indycar drivers? Running 230 wheel to wheel?

Zero. Thus, they have no right to an opinion. Not that the sanctioning body would allow them one. I forgot, NASCAR doesn't allow their drivers to race outside of NASCAR, unless it is a publicity stunt for NASCAR.

Yet, the sanctioning body/propaganda ministry has such regular negative opinion on Indycars and Formula 1.

I'm guessing that if you put any of Hendrick's Sprint Cup drivers in any Indycar but Penske or Ganassi's Indycars they would be winless. And not because they aren't talented.

Same goes the other way around. Penske and Ganassi aren't the same in NASCAR, as they are in Indycar. Nor would the NASCAR teams be, if they switched. Two different animals.

Danica is a good driver. Not a great one. She will also be good in NASCAR, not great. Not a surprise.

Franchitti ran for a mid-pack team at the time with a learning curve. Woulda done a lot better at Hendrick, but that's not a good story for NASCAR.


Not much of a NASCAR fan, are you? If you were, you'd remember that Tony Stewart, Robby Gordon, and John Andretti all have done "the double", racing the Indy 500 and the Coke 600 in the same day. Stewart won the IRL championship in 1997, two years before jumping to NASCAR. Andretti has gone back and forth between NASCAR and the IRL during his career.

As for Franchitti, I like him a lot, but he did not have the chops to cut it in NASCAR. Plain and simple. Hendrick's cars are not magic, just ask Dale Jr. While Franchitti struggled to qualify for races, other Ganassi/Sabates drivers like Martin Truax were running up front every week. Dario needed to dedicate three years of his career to only stock car racing in order to make it work for him. Unfortunately, he wasn't enough of a draw for sponsors and Ganassi pulled the plug on his team.
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: ffracer


Yet, the sanctioning body/propaganda ministry has such regular negative opinion on Indycars and Formula 1.



Right. Because the snobs in those 2 organizations berate Nascar as being not as challenging. Then, when someone like Scott Speed or Patrick Carpentier tries to run Nascar, they get OWNED!


It's not as challenging in some areas. Physically, F1 is more demanding in many ways.
 
Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
She'll fit right in with that current crop of whiney NASCAR drivers.

Showing my age a bit, but Mark Martin is the only one I respect anymore.


True, but I liked him more when he drove the #6 Valvoline car. I also miss Rusty Wallaces' black and gold Miller Genuine Draft car.
 
Originally Posted By: sparkplug
Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
She'll fit right in with that current crop of whiney NASCAR drivers.

Showing my age a bit, but Mark Martin is the only one I respect anymore.


True, but I liked him more when he drove the #6 Valvoline car. I also miss Rusty Wallaces' black and gold Miller Genuine Draft car.


Those were the days.........sigh
 
Have not cared for Nascar since the early '90's. When Bobby Allison,Richard Petty and Cale Yarborough left, it just became a crashfest. You cant watch 10 laps of NAscar without a yellow flag. Plus I think it is fixed.
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Originally Posted By: Hermann
Have not cared for Nascar since the early '90's. When Bobby Allison,Richard Petty and Cale Yarborough left, it just became a crashfest. You cant watch 10 laps of NAscar without a yellow flag. Plus I think it is fixed.
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I think they've given up on Jr. There were far less Dale Jr. mystery debris cautions this year!
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: ffracer


Yet, the sanctioning body/propaganda ministry has such regular negative opinion on Indycars and Formula 1.



Right. Because the snobs in those 2 organizations berate Nascar as being not as challenging. Then, when someone like Scott Speed or Patrick Carpentier tries to run Nascar, they get OWNED!


Until, I see anyone run a faster, better handling car than a Sprint Cup car, like a Modified, I expect NASCAR gets worried and says nothing to see here. No one, except maybe Bernie Ecclestone is saying NASCAR is easy. Just don't expect it to be a cake walk in the other direction in Indycars or F1. the retards on TV (J. Spencer & K. Wallace) don't even have a basis for an opinion, since they never tried it. It is disgusting.

they ran Modifieds and Trans-Am at Watkins Glen with Cup and canned 'em both, because the racing was far better and much faster. Even the drunks noticed.
 
Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
Its very simple, get rid of restrictor plate racing and the fans will really be happy with speeds of approx 230 MPH


I'm all for that as long as they remove the rear wing as well. give them a 1" spoiler for a little stability, but no down force. Make the drivers slow down in the turns. Heck, make them shift into third and tip-toe thru the turns. That will end the huge packs of cars and the massive wrecks for good. Plus, its a lot cheaper than smaller engines or reconfigured tracks.
 
Danica Patrick has an opposite effect on me. Since I see her promoting PEAK products, I will go way out of my way to AVOID buying PEAK antifreeze (or oil, lol)
 
I'm not sure what will happen, since I don't really know what the difference between driving in the two types of racing is, but I know I will watch.

One way to fix NASCAR would be to have the races on the same channel all the time. The Sunday race would always be on Fox, the Friday and Saturday coverage could be on TBS. It is really hard to follow the races when halfway through the season, you lose coverage because a lot of people don't have cable. Another would be to have more of the "road" types of races- more turns and braking and stragety. I find those races far more entertaining than 500 miles in an oval. And I think it depends more on driver skill and car setup, than "race management" like the oval races- seems like those races are more about who has the smartest spotter and the best computer system.

Of course, I'd also like to see them actually be stock cars- go up to the dealership, buy a Challenger, fit it with the appropriate safety cages and standard fuel cell, and race it.
 
Danica's record is 1 win in 221 starts. That's what NASCAR is all about. You don't have to be successful, just marketable.
 
Originally Posted By: whip
Danica's record is 1 win in 221 starts. That's what NASCAR is all about. You don't have to be successful, just marketable.


That explains Dale Jr. Then.
 
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