CR Top 10 LEAST reliable cars

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
I wonder if the Ford ones are STILL related to the MyFordTouch issues, which were mentioned in the other article?

Given your computer background, I'm sure you read the humour piece some years ago that asked if we would tolerate cars having random, inexplicable failures and blue screens of death and requiring restarts to work correctly at various intervals, like we do with Microsoft Windows. I guess it's not so humorous any longer.

Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
"CR's Director of auto testing Fisher said Monday that most of Ford’s problems are software-related — instead of a nuts-and-bolts hardware issue — which means the Dearborn automaker should have an easier time fixing glitches."

Obviously, Jake Fisher has little experience with Microsoft products.

 

[NHHEMI]

I would like to see a top 10 list of most unreliable magazines. CR definitely would be near the top on that one.

I place ZERO credibility in anything CR, or any magazine for that matter, says. Bias...bias...bias...

 

[refaller]

My dad has the top 2 cars on that list! The Escape has had a couple recalls that required him to have a loaner for a couple of weeks. So far so good on the CMAX Energi, but he has only had it a couple of months. Loves it. Averaging 100mpgs not counting electricity used.

ref

 

[Win]

None of those cars interest me much, but, if they did, I wouldn't give a rats rear end what CR said about them.

If I wanted it, I'd just buy one.

edit: the Genesis coupe could potentially interest me. Still, who cares what CR says? Not me, that's for sure.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
I wonder if the Ford ones are STILL related to the MyFordTouch issues, which were mentioned in the other article?

Given your computer background, I'm sure you read the humour piece some years ago that asked if we would tolerate cars having random, inexplicable failures and blue screens of death and requiring restarts to work correctly at various intervals, like we do with Microsoft Windows. I guess it's not so humorous any longer.

Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
"CR's Director of auto testing Fisher said Monday that most of Ford’s problems are software-related — instead of a nuts-and-bolts hardware issue — which means the Dearborn automaker should have an easier time fixing glitches."

Obviously, Jake Fisher has little experience with Microsoft products.


And of course Synch is a Microsoft-based endeavour, LOL!!

 

[Peted]

Five Fords? Color me surprised. /s

 

[Cujet]

Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Way to go Ford. Maybe if they put in bigger TVs with more syncing that will fix the problems.


hahahahahaha exactly right!

 

[lovcom]

I have trusted CR for decades and rarely seen them miss the mark. Only those that own the cars CR hates (and for good reason) talk [censored] against CR. Usually Chrysler, LandRover, and some German car owners are the ones that hate CR. Reality is too painful for them.

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: lovcom
I have trusted CR for decades and rarely seen them miss the mark. Only those that own the cars CR hates (and for good reason) talk [censored] against CR. Usually Chrysler, LandRover, and some German car owners are the ones that hate CR. Reality is too painful for them.


Wow.

 

[gizzsdad]

Originally Posted By: fdcg27
The worst car on this list is probably less troublesome than the best car of thirty years ago.


Best comment on this site this week!!

It's ALL about perspective.

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: NHGUY
Quite a few imports there.


I was thinking there's a lot of Fords on the list...which puzzles me because I thought they were putting out much better vehicles these days than before...

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: mclasser
Surprised no Chrysler vehicles are on the list.


Me too. I figured to see a list full of Chrysler and Rover products...

 

[blackman777]

Where's Kia? I'm always hearing bad gossip about them, but they didn't even make this list.

Ford's customers are unhappy with the C-max because it was rated 47/47 and should have been 45/40. They are not happy with getting much worse MPG than the sticker states.

 

[fdcg27]

Originally Posted By: lovcom
I have trusted CR for decades and rarely seen them miss the mark. Only those that own the cars CR hates (and for good reason) talk [censored] against CR. Usually Chrysler, LandRover, and some German car owners are the ones that hate CR. Reality is too painful for them.


IDK, since we own three cars that CR loves and they can have their troubles as well.
Around the time that we bought the Forester, CR rated Subaru the top car maker with Honda second, this not withstanding the well known head gasket failures that Subarus continued to experience after multiple tries at new and improved head gaskets, or an entire generation of Accords as well as a number of years of Odys with known automatic transmission weaknesses.
I am praying that we don't end up putting a tranny in the '02 Accord and head gaskets on the Forester. So far, so good with both.
OTOH, we've owned two vehicles that CR rated as no more than average in reliability and both were as reliable as an old-school Stanley hammer, our '81 Vanagon and our '97 Aerostar.
CR is certainly a useful source of information, but it is only one such source. In the current era, there are many other readily found sources of information, all of which should be read critically and maybe taken with a grain of salt, including CR.

 

[CBR.worm]

The thing is, they should not be using entertainment system issues as a metric of reliability. They should note that the systems are finicky and some people don't like them. The infotainment system is unlikely to strand you whereas a transmission that only lasts 50k miles is.

 

[hypervish]

Originally Posted By: CBR.worm
The thing is, they should not be using entertainment system issues as a metric of reliability. They should note that the systems are finicky and some people don't like them. The infotainment system is unlikely to strand you whereas a transmission that only lasts 50k miles is.


I agree, but that is no excuse. Wasn't this stupid system introduced in something like 2007! It's 2013 and their are still issues!

Also it is not just an entertainment system, It controls the HVAC as well.

Let's face it many people bought a Ford just because of this capability, but they've been disappointed.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: hypervish
Originally Posted By: CBR.worm
The thing is, they should not be using entertainment system issues as a metric of reliability. They should note that the systems are finicky and some people don't like them. The infotainment system is unlikely to strand you whereas a transmission that only lasts 50k miles is.


I agree, but that is no excuse. Wasn't this stupid system introduced in something like 2007! It's 2013 and their are still issues!

Also it is not just an entertainment system, It controls the HVAC as well.


Yes. Its a bit awkward at times (we have a few new Ford's at work) but it doesn't effect the functionality of the vehicle or the reliability. And since CR is lumping it under reliability, I think that's a bit disingenuous.

 

[hypervish]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: hypervish
Originally Posted By: CBR.worm
The thing is, they should not be using entertainment system issues as a metric of reliability. They should note that the systems are finicky and some people don't like them. The infotainment system is unlikely to strand you whereas a transmission that only lasts 50k miles is.


I agree, but that is no excuse. Wasn't this stupid system introduced in something like 2007! It's 2013 and their are still issues!

Also it is not just an entertainment system, It controls the HVAC as well.


Yes. Its a bit awkward at times (we have a few new Ford's at work) but it doesn't effect the functionality of the vehicle or the reliability. And since CR is lumping it under reliability, I think that's a bit disingenuous.


I do agree. I wish they would point out what makes these cars "least" reliable for the general public that doesn't realize it is due to the MyFord Touch issues.

I'd say not having the heater come on when you want, does effect the functionality of the vehicle though.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: hypervish
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: hypervish
Originally Posted By: CBR.worm
The thing is, they should not be using entertainment system issues as a metric of reliability. They should note that the systems are finicky and some people don't like them. The infotainment system is unlikely to strand you whereas a transmission that only lasts 50k miles is.


I agree, but that is no excuse. Wasn't this stupid system introduced in something like 2007! It's 2013 and their are still issues!

Also it is not just an entertainment system, It controls the HVAC as well.


Yes. Its a bit awkward at times (we have a few new Ford's at work) but it doesn't effect the functionality of the vehicle or the reliability. And since CR is lumping it under reliability, I think that's a bit disingenuous.


I do agree. I wish they would point out what makes these cars "least" reliable for the general public that doesn't realize it is due to the MyFord Touch issues.

I'd say not having the heater come on when you want, does effect the functionality of the vehicle though.


We've never had THAT particular issue (not sure if it is one? ) but more so synching issues with the stereo and it doing funky things for the most part. Pairing devices to the system and the like.

 

[mclasser]

Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: NHGUY
Quite a few imports there.


I was thinking there's a lot of Fords on the list...which puzzles me because I thought they were putting out much better vehicles these days than before...


I'm surprised at the Fords too. CR has always been in bed with Toyota/Lexus. My conspiracy theory is CR also has obvious favoritism towards the domestic companies that took bailout money, i.e., GM and Chrysler.