Reliability Ratings - AutoBild

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Their statistical sampling size is not uniform, to put it mildly, but here is the list top to bottom:


Audi A3.
VW Golf Sportsvan.
KIA Sportage.
Volvo XC60.
BMW X1.
Hyundai i30 Kombi.
Hyundai Tucson.
Audi A6 Avant.
Mercedes-Benz V-class.
Ford Focus.
Mazda CX-5.
Mazda MX-5.
Mercedes-Benz C-class.
Suzuki SX4 S-Cross.
VW Passat Variant.
KIA Cee`d.
Mercedes-Benz A-class.
Scoda Octavia Combi.
KIA Soul.
FIAT 500X.
Lexus GS.
Lexus CT 200h.
Peugeot 2008.
Dacia Lodgy.
Mercedes-Benz E-class.
SEAT Alhambra.
Mazda 6 Kombi.
Toyota Yaris Hybrid.
BMW 3-series GT.
Nissan Qashqai.
Renault Twingo.
Volvo V60.
Hyundai i40 Kombi.
KIA Rio.
Mercedes-Benz B-class.
KIA Optima.
Opel Zafira Tourer.
MINI Cooper Countryman.
Opel Meriva.
VW Up!.
Skoda Fabia Combi.
Ford Kuga.
Ford Mondeo Turnier.
KIA Carens.
Renault Clio Grand Tour.
SEAT Leon.
Suzuki Vitara S.
Ford Grand C-Max.
VW Golf.
Citroёn C4 Cactus.
 
Their methodology is flawed in one way: sample of one. other than that, they run the samples from 2014 until they reach the 100k km point, log everything and do a total disassemble with measurements. it would be nice, if they tested a sizable sample population. The list is from the best to worst. Strange to see no usual suspect here: gas Corolla and Civic.
I treust German TUV rankings more
 
Originally Posted by itguy08
Originally Posted by macarose
This is place is way betterworse. Over 2 million vehicles spanning 20+ years.

http://www.dashboard-light.com/


Fixed it for you.

http://dashboard-light.com/faq.html#qir

The "QIR" is pretty bogus. Look at auction vehicles, which often are problem children. Then use some unknown criteria to determine "powertrain" problems only......


http://dashboard-light.com/faq.html#qir

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There is nothing surprising on ADAC list.
Japanese vehicles are far more complicated/sophisticated in EU than US.
Some of the most unreliable vehicles were Toyota diesel etc.
Do not confuse your average Camry with Toyota Avensis in EU.
 
Originally Posted by wemay
Originally Posted by itguy08
Originally Posted by macarose
This is place is way betterworse. Over 2 million vehicles spanning 20+ years.

http://www.dashboard-light.com/


Fixed it for you.

http://dashboard-light.com/faq.html#qir

The "QIR" is pretty bogus. Look at auction vehicles, which often are problem children. Then use some unknown criteria to determine "powertrain" problems only......


http://dashboard-light.com/faq.html#qir



I've seen that and the other pages where they state what the QIR is. Problem is they don't say what is involved in this "reporting standards". What do they use as criterias? CEL's? Engines that don't start? Cars that don't go? What is the method to them assigning this rating?

And using auction cars, which tend to be problem children doesn't seem to be an accurate way to gauge reliability or quality.
 
The fact that they use auction vehicles for the samples whatever their methodology is laughable from the start...just look at some of the more reliable cars of recent vintage and superimpose those over "dashboardlights" findings and you can see that several models seem to be skewed to data that's decades out and not representative of how reliable that vehicle will be today. That's excluding the fact that ( as mentioned ) sucker auction cars are typically repo'd, abused, poorly maintained, etc. to a much higher degree than the experience of a typical owner...and the cheaper cars tend to be even more trashed.

If you want to know which vehicles of the "just out of jail", low credit, no money, "gave it to his younger brother who he co-signed for" variety are the worst maintained and abused....yes, get that auction data ready...just don't align it with reliability using some vague methodology.
 
Originally Posted by edyvw
There is nothing surprising on ADAC list.
Japanese vehicles are far more complicated/sophisticated in EU than US.
Some of the most unreliable vehicles were Toyota diesel etc.
Do not confuse your average Camry with Toyota Avensis in EU.



My co worker have a avensis D4D 2.0 that have been run almost 600k km. My Hilux have 300k km. So not really that unreliable they are. But they have had headgasket issues wich was cover by warranty.
 
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