CR Top 10 LEAST reliable cars

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Agreed.
Reliability is having the car not strand you.
It's having the car start and get you to work on a below 0F moring and then having it get you home on the following below 0F evening commute.
Having a touch screen not do what it's supposed to do would be irritating on a car you've just spent money buying, but it's hardly fatal.
 
Originally Posted By: CBR.worm
The thing is, they should not be using entertainment system issues as a metric of reliability. They should note that the systems are finicky and some people don't like them. The infotainment system is unlikely to strand you whereas a transmission that only lasts 50k miles is.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Agreed.
Reliability is having the car not strand you.
It's having the car start and get you to work on a below 0F moring and then having it get you home on the following below 0F evening commute.
Having a touch screen not do what it's supposed to do would be irritating on a car you've just spent money buying, but it's hardly fatal.



Hmmmm....

Tell that to the member here who had has new Cadillac ATS at the dealer for a while because of infotainment issues.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/newly-purchased-cadillac-has-problems-from-day-1.199426/

JD Power also says infotainment woes can reduce their initial quality scores. That issue has hurt Ford scores in the past.
 
Originally Posted By: mclasser
Surprised no Chrysler vehicles are on the list.


I've had some of the best service from Chrysler products. They had some vehicle-specific issues (minivan trans comes to mind), but otherwise they're very reliable and hold up for a long time. 2010 Challenger has had zero issues.
 
Originally Posted By: Silverado12
Originally Posted By: mclasser
Surprised no Chrysler vehicles are on the list.


I've had some of the best service from Chrysler products. They had some vehicle-specific issues (minivan trans comes to mind), but otherwise they're very reliable and hold up for a long time. 2010 Challenger has had zero issues.


I had a '98 Intrepid (purchased new) with a 2.7 that started burning 1 qt of oil every 500 miles at just 60K on the odo...and that was with 3K oil/flter changes using Mobil 1 full syn...and their minvans have been a reliability nightmare for decades...I'll never own another Chrysler product...
 
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
And of course Synch is a Microsoft-based endeavour, LOL!!
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Like you mentioned subsequently, it's not that much of a real reliability issue, but it is high, I'm sure, in the nuisance factor. Heck, Infiniti salesmen are well known to recommend to customers to avoid the high tech package. And the tech package on Ford (or anyone else for that matter) gives me pause. I understand a decent stereo system. Bluetooth makes some sense. I'm less sold on excessive integration of cells phones and related devices and the use of navigation aids.

Map reading is a dying art. My first job when I was 16 was delivering pizza. The boss gave a very fine piece of advice: If you don't know where you're going, do not leave the store until you figure it out.
 
Originally Posted By: Silverado12
Originally Posted By: mclasser
Surprised no Chrysler vehicles are on the list.


I've had some of the best service from Chrysler products. They had some vehicle-specific issues (minivan trans comes to mind), but otherwise they're very reliable and hold up for a long time. 2010 Challenger has had zero issues.


The name brand folks will always ding Chrysler. They obviously never got the memo that the LX and LC cars are a radically different platform from ANYTHING ever built there before.

My car has been by far the most reliable car I have ever purchased in well over 40 years of having a very busy driveway. 200 dragstrip passes and countless track days with one motor mount replaced! I have had many a track rat car and not one could equal this one in reliability and versatility.

Personally I am fine with uninformed opinions, as they hold the prices down so I can buy a used example quite cheaply!
 
Originally Posted By: gizzsdad
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
The worst car on this list is probably less troublesome than the best car of thirty years ago.


Best comment on this site this week!!

It's ALL about perspective.


+1 I'd love to know the point spread between the best car and the worst! I bet there isn't much of a difference.
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: Silverado12
Originally Posted By: mclasser
Surprised no Chrysler vehicles are on the list.


I've had some of the best service from Chrysler products. They had some vehicle-specific issues (minivan trans comes to mind), but otherwise they're very reliable and hold up for a long time. 2010 Challenger has had zero issues.


The name brand folks will always ding Chrysler. They obviously never got the memo that the LX and LC cars are a radically different platform from ANYTHING ever built there before.

My car has been by far the most reliable car I have ever purchased in well over 40 years of having a very busy driveway. 200 dragstrip passes and countless track days with one motor mount replaced! I have had many a track rat car and not one could equal this one in reliability and versatility.

Personally I am fine with uninformed opinions, as they hold the prices down so I can buy a used example quite cheaply!


Count me in with the good luck from Chrysler products. My family has owned quite a few over the years and had great luck.
 
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: Silverado12
Originally Posted By: mclasser
Surprised no Chrysler vehicles are on the list.


I've had some of the best service from Chrysler products. They had some vehicle-specific issues (minivan trans comes to mind), but otherwise they're very reliable and hold up for a long time. 2010 Challenger has had zero issues.


The name brand folks will always ding Chrysler. They obviously never got the memo that the LX and LC cars are a radically different platform from ANYTHING ever built there before.

My car has been by far the most reliable car I have ever purchased in well over 40 years of having a very busy driveway. 200 dragstrip passes and countless track days with one motor mount replaced! I have had many a track rat car and not one could equal this one in reliability and versatility.

Personally I am fine with uninformed opinions, as they hold the prices down so I can buy a used example quite cheaply!


Count me in with the good luck from Chrysler products. My family has owned quite a few over the years and had great luck.


Same here dating back to the 1960's. Worst vehicle ever for me was a Toyota( 2005 Tacoma ).
 
Consumer reports & their rating system for cars is garbage - I would put zero stock into anything consumer reports has to say about an automobile!!!
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: Silverado12
Originally Posted By: mclasser
Surprised no Chrysler vehicles are on the list.


I've had some of the best service from Chrysler products. They had some vehicle-specific issues (minivan trans comes to mind), but otherwise they're very reliable and hold up for a long time. 2010 Challenger has had zero issues.


The name brand folks will always ding Chrysler. They obviously never got the memo that the LX and LC cars are a radically different platform from ANYTHING ever built there before.

My car has been by far the most reliable car I have ever purchased in well over 40 years of having a very busy driveway. 200 dragstrip passes and countless track days with one motor mount replaced! I have had many a track rat car and not one could equal this one in reliability and versatility.

Personally I am fine with uninformed opinions, as they hold the prices down so I can buy a used example quite cheaply!


There's nothing uninformed about what I posted....the engine in our '98 Intrepid was a POS!...and there's nothing uninformed or opinionative about the problems over the years with Caravans...they are widespread and well known....
 
Yeah, parroting what you read on the Net proves you are right! Of course the millions of satisfied Chrysler owners won't be posting their opinions but who can argue with CR?

Can't argue with that at all...
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Yeah, parroting what you read on the Net proves you are right! Of course the millions of satisfied Chrysler owners won't be posting their opinions but who can argue with CR?

Can't argue with that at all...


No more than you can argue with those who have had many problems with Chrysler products...just because you've had good luck with their products doesn't mean everyone else has to....
 
Well, I was wrong. I am truly humbled. Apparently others anecdotal experiences are much more important than mine. Interesting point indeed.

Thanks for schooling me...
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Well, I was wrong. I am truly humbled. Apparently others anecdotal experiences are much more important than mine. Interesting point indeed.

Thanks for schooling me...


You're not wrong, just narrow minded....
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Well, I was wrong. I am truly humbled. Apparently others anecdotal experiences are much more important than mine. Interesting point indeed.

Thanks for schooling me...


You're not wrong, just narrow minded....


You are a trip! One of your best yet.

Whatever you say. You are obviously the smartest person in the room. I defer to your extreme intelligence!

But do note that you still haven't explained how the anecdotal experiences of others trump my own. Hmmm?
 
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Well, I was wrong. I am truly humbled. Apparently others anecdotal experiences are much more important than mine. Interesting point indeed.

Thanks for schooling me...


You're not wrong, just narrow minded....


You are a trip! One of your best yet.

Whatever you say. You are obviously the smartest person in the room. I defer to your extreme intelligence!

But do note that you still haven't explained how the anecdotal experiences of others trump my own. Hmmm?


Brand loyal people like you crack me up. You think just because you've had good luck with a particular make, anyone else who claims they've had trouble with the make are ancedotal...in other words, we're making it up, or imagining, or lying about our claims of having problems with the make, or in some way, shape, or form our experiences are irrelevent...
 
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That's pretty cool. A guy so wrapped up in himself that he claims he knows what other people think!

Face it, you know nothing about me. You imagine you do (read the ridiculous statements you made up above), but that's the same blind faith that makes you imagine that CR is anything more than drivel.

And of course you STILL haven't explained how others anecdotal experiences somehow mean more than mine! (Hint: you blew that one, read the thread for many other satisfied Chrysler owners)

Good luck with that. Keep it up, it's becoming a bit of a bore, but I can run with this for a while...
 
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
That's pretty cool. A guy so wrapped up in himself that he claims he knows what other people think!

Face it, you know nothing about me. You imagine you do (read the ridiculous statements you made up above), but that's the same blind faith that makes you imagine that CR is anything more than drivel.

And of course you STILL haven't explained how others anecdotal experiences somehow mean more than mine! (Hint: you blew that one, read the thread for many other satisfied Chrysler owners)

Good luck with that. Keep it up, it's becoming a bit of a bore, but I can run with this for a while...



I don't need to know what you think...you posted what you think...and where did I say my experiences (or anyone's for that matter) mean more than yours? I would venture to guess that most people who buy ANY brand have more favorable experiences with that brand than unfavorable...if it were the other way around, I doubt that brand would still be in business...I simply posted that my experiences with Chrysler products haven't been good ones. I've never said anything for or against CR's reviews, and I never said, or even implied that my viewpoint carries more weight than those who have had good experiences with Chrysler....so I'm not quite sure what your beef is with what I've said...
 
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The equivalent of "never mind".

Man, you need to re-read the posts, you are way out there...

Not everyone here thinks Toyota is godlike and Chrysler is all bad.

Note that the word 'anecdotal' is not an insult!
 
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