Could have been your mom, home alone.

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Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle

There is NO better deterrant than a thug hearing the sound of someone pumping a shotgun!


I think 60 lbs. or more of angry dog standing on his chest has got to be a close second though. It could be an easier option in a household with children.
 
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I pay $1,600 per year, every year, for car insurance. Haven't had an accident, but stuff happens and insurance is a good idea.

I pay $1,400 per year, every year, for home owners insurance in NJ. Haven't had a fire, but stuff happens and insurance is a good idea.

I pay $1,100 per year, every year, for home owners insurance for my second home in VA. Haven't had a fire, but stuff happens and insurance is a good idea.

A shotgun cost about $350, a one time expense. Haven't had a break-in and hope I never need it, but stuff happens and insurance is a good idea.

Tom NJ
 
Originally Posted By: MinamiKotaro
Originally Posted By: wtd
Read about the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom carjacking and murder. A horrible crime that could happen to anyone.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

I'll never forget this. It was not a crime, it was a monstrosity. The creatures that committed it do not deserve to exist. Life imprisonment is too lenient.

It happened in my hometown, and was what pushed me into the pro-gun camp. To those who'd argue that guns always make a bad situation worse, take a look at what happened here. HOW could it possibly have been any worse if Channon and Christopher had been armed?

I just re-read the wikipedia link that I hadn't read in a few years and didn't know that they were granted new trials. That is a bunch of [censored]. This case still makes me mad when I read about it.

Wayne
 
Originally Posted By: MinamiKotaro
Originally Posted By: wtd
Read about the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom carjacking and murder. A horrible crime that could happen to anyone.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

I'll never forget this. It was not a crime, it was a monstrosity. The creatures that committed it do not deserve to exist. Life imprisonment is too lenient.

It happened in my hometown, and was what pushed me into the pro-gun camp. To those who'd argue that guns always make a bad situation worse, take a look at what happened here. HOW could it possibly have been any worse if Channon and Christopher had been armed?


This group all deserves death by the most painful method possible:

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For the horrific crimes they committed against these two:

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Free market, right? Those that dont want to leave are just lazy and not trying hard enough to get themselves into a situation to get out.


All aboard the clue train! Last stop is you! *facepalm*
 
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Free market, right? Those that dont want to leave are just lazy and not trying hard enough to get themselves into a situation to get out.


All aboard the clue train! Last stop is you! *facepalm*



Someone with 60 posts might want to observe a bit before making silly comments. Youll understand at some point...

Perhaps youve never read a classic Tempest post and the discussion that ensues.

This was a friendly joke/jab. I thought I had put a smiley wink, my mistake.

Better luck next time.
 
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Originally Posted By: wtd
A lot of people think the world is all roses and sunshine and that bad things only happen to someone else. To these people I say, go to the state of Texas's death row website and read the details about the people on there. Go to my State's and read those. These are only a small sample of the kind of people we have in society and doesn't take into consideration the people that are not on death row that will at some point get out of prison. The majority of incarcerated criminals eventually get out of prison. True, the odds of this happening to someone is probably small but why not have a tool that might prevent this type of thing from happening to you.



Death row in my state has person who happened to kill a cop. The previous person there was 1939. I like my roses and sunshine view better. Chances are quite low anything happening here at least.


Im happy for you, and your world of perfection.. but you shouldnt condemn others that want to protect themselves in less perfect places.. I myself live in a pretty safe place, but im a member of the Law enforcement community and i can tell you ive seen the ugly belly of my fellow americans. I will keep firearms always.
 
Originally Posted By: OtisBlkR1
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Originally Posted By: wtd
A lot of people think the world is all roses and sunshine and that bad things only happen to someone else. To these people I say, go to the state of Texas's death row website and read the details about the people on there. Go to my State's and read those. These are only a small sample of the kind of people we have in society and doesn't take into consideration the people that are not on death row that will at some point get out of prison. The majority of incarcerated criminals eventually get out of prison. True, the odds of this happening to someone is probably small but why not have a tool that might prevent this type of thing from happening to you.



Death row in my state has person who happened to kill a cop. The previous person there was 1939. I like my roses and sunshine view better. Chances are quite low anything happening here at least.


Im happy for you, and your world of perfection.. but you shouldnt condemn others that want to protect themselves in less perfect places.. I myself live in a pretty safe place, but im a member of the Law enforcement community and i can tell you ive seen the ugly belly of my fellow americans. I will keep firearms always.


what I have seen during my short life is that people who scream peace, non-violence, gunless society when other are subject to misdoing are the ones who go nuts, I mean
first time they experience any kind of victimization, they go ape crazy and probably will go out and get a barrett 50 cal.

I am curious what would you suggest Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom could have done to protect themselves WITHOUT a firearm? if you oppose guns you have to propose a solution to violent crimes like this.
 
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Maybe I am naive.

I do not lock my house either. Life is good in my area.


Thanks.....Whats your address by the way
 
very nice house nice area
Ga. mom who shot intruder inspires gun rights advocates


LOGANVILLE, GA.A Georgia mother who shot an intruder at her home has become a small part of the roaring gun control debate, with some firearms enthusiasts touting her as a textbook example of responsible gun ownership.

Melinda Herman grabbed a handgun and hid in a crawl space with her two children when a man broke in last week and approached the family at their home northeast of Atlanta, police said. Herman called her husband on the phone, and with him reminding her of the lessons she recently learned at a shooting range, Herman opened fire, seriously wounding the burglary suspect.

The National Rifle Association tweeted a link to a news story about the shooting, and support poured in from others online, hailing Herman as a hero. The local sheriff said he was proud of the way she handled the situation.

"This lady decided that she wasn't going to be a victim, and I think everyone else looks at this and hopes they have the courage to do what she done," Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman said Wednesday.

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Herman was working from home Friday when she saw a man walk up to the front door. She told police he rang the doorbell twice and then over and over again. He went back to his SUV, got something out and walked back toward the house, a police report said.

Herman took her 9-year-old son and daughter into an upstairs bedroom and locked the door. They went into bathroom and she locked that door, too. She got her handgun from a safe, the report said, and hid with her children. At some point, she called her husband, who kept her on the line and called 911 on another line.

In a 10-minute 911 recording released by the Walton County Sheriff's Office, Donnie Herman calmly explained what was happening to a dispatcher. His part of the conversation with his wife was also recorded.

"Is he in the house, Melinda? Are you sure? How do you know? You can hear him in the house?" Donnie Herman said.

His wife told him the intruder was coming closer.

"He's in the bedroom? Shh, shh, relax. Just remember everything that I showed you, everything that I taught you, all right?" Donnie Herman told his wife, explaining later to the dispatcher that he had recently taken her to a gun range.

It wasn't clear from the recording exactly when they went to range and Donnie Herman told The Associated Press on Wednesday the family didn't want to talk about the shooting.

After Donnie Herman told his wife police were on the way, he started shouting: "She shot him. She's shootin' him. She's shootin' him. She's shootin' him. She's shootin' him."

"OK," the dispatcher responded.

"Shoot him again! Shoot him!" Donnie Herman yelled. He told the dispatcher he heard a lot of screaming, but he seems to get increasingly worried when he doesn't hear anything from his wife.

Melinda Herman told police she started shooting the man when he opened the door to the crawl space. The man pleaded with her to stop, but she kept firing until she had emptied her rounds, she told police. She then fled to a neighbor's house with her children.

The man drove away in his SUV. Police found the SUV on another subdivision street and discovered a man bleeding from his face and body in a nearby wooded area. Police identified the suspect as 32-year-old Paul Slater of Atlanta.

Chapman said the hospital asked him not to comment on Slater's condition, but he said he is not certain Slater will survive.

CBS Atlanta affiliate WGCL-TV reports Slater is on a ventilator.

Authorities have a warrant but haven't formally arrested Slater yet. They plan to charge him with burglary, possession of tools for the commission of a crime and aggravated assault, Walton County sheriff's Capt. Greg Hall said.

A phone number for Slater was not listed and it was not clear whether he has an attorney.

Authorities believe Slater targeted a home in another local subdivision but left when confronted by the homeowner, Chapman said.

© 2013 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report. Ga mom
 
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the above story says it all, this woman chose to live, she chose to protect her children, she chose to stand and fight. Bravo !
 
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Just imagine if she had to WAIT for the police to arrive there, my guess is that all three family members would be dead right now.


I just read this on CNN and I can support it:
Likewise, the NRA has long championed Project Exile, a pilot program first implemented in Richmond, Virginia, which prosecuted serious local gun crimes committed by felons under federal law, putting repeat offenders in federal prisons far away from their communities. This get-tough approach,which inspired President Bush's national initiative Project Safe Neighborhoods, ended up cutting the "gun carry" rate in half and reducing the murder rate in Richmond by more than 60%. The five-year mandatory sentence for committing a crime with an illegal gun changed criminal behavior. Similar initiatives have been implemented in cities throughout the country, but the coordination has been spotty and the Obama administration has failed to follow through on the model or add innovations to it.
 
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