Could have been your mom, home alone.

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Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
A lot of people die in house fires; I guess I should carry an extinquisher around my home.


I am still waiting for the ban on sports cars, since they make it so easy for people to speed, endanger lives, and violate the law. You could even KILL somebody with one, too!
 
Originally Posted By: Gabe
Originally Posted By: supton

Vast =/= all. Also, what happens if the houses are so far apart that no one would hear a siren?


A house's alarm system isn't designed to alert your neighbors. It is designed to alert you, a criminal and the police.


Fair enough. I'm not against them.
 
Maybe she should have prayed and that could have saved her. I say take all the bullet proof vest away from police/fbi swat and ask them to pray to deflect the bullets ;-)

Sorry for the scarcasm, it is so easy to do what ifs now sitting in my safe dining room table, sipping some pina and smoking my havanas.
 
Let's not try to sugar coat things. A gun is not a deterrent of any sort. A gun is a last resort, for situations where the only way to save your life is to kill the person endangering you.
 
Originally Posted By: MinamiKotaro
Let's not try to sugar coat things. A gun is not a deterrent of any sort. A gun is a last resort, for situations where the only way to save your life is to kill the person endangering you.


Not true, if the person breaking into your house knows, or you make it known that you have a gun, they are far less likely to confront you, especially if you live in a state where it is legal to shoot someone who tresspasses on your property. In most cases where guns are involved, I would think the fight is over before a single shot has been fired, it's called intimidation. It's also
similar to MAD. A country is less likely to attack a country that has nuclear weapons that they know will be used against them.
 
Originally Posted By: MinamiKotaro
Let's not try to sugar coat things. A gun is not a deterrent of any sort. A gun is a last resort, for situations where the only way to save your life is to kill the person endangering you.


First off, I agree with the last part of your post. But let's do one scenario here in regards to the gun deterrent.
A robber is looking for a bar to rob and he has his choice of two of them, neither of them having any bouncers or security cameras. It is well known that bar #1 is a bar frequented by retired and off duty police officers, most of carrying a concealed gun. It is also well known that bar #2 is frequented by wealthy anti-gun patrons.
What bar do you think will get robbed first?
Also, don't you think an armed guard at a bank is more of a deterrent than just an unarmed guy/gal wearing a shirt that just says "security" on it?
 
Originally Posted By: MinamiKotaro
Let's not try to sugar coat things. A gun is not a deterrent of any sort. A gun is a last resort, for situations where the only way to save your life is to kill the person endangering you.


There is NO better deterrant than a thug hearing the sound of someone pumping a shotgun!
 
Yep. Going to buy a handgun with my tax return. Right after the Elliptical machine
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Originally Posted By: morepwr
When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.



THIS^^^^^^


This is one argument that the anti-gun advocates---

DO NOT HAVE A ANSWER TO.
 
Maybe I am naive.

However I am beyond comfortable living without concealed or usable weapons in my home. I do not lock my house either. Life is good in my area.

I could try to use the Revolutionary war musket from my ancestor against an intruder.
 
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Maybe I am naive.

However I am beyond comfortable living without concealed or usable weapons in my home. I do not lock my house either. Life is good in my area.

I could try to use the Revolutionary war musket from my ancestor against an intruder.

"New England", as per your listed location, has some of the lowest crime rates in the nation.

Maybe if you moved to the bad part of DC you might have a different opinion?
 
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Originally Posted By: Darren270
Dogs and alarm systems are great deterrents just like the locks on your doors and windows, but they won't stop a determined bad guy. A gun is also a great deterrent, but it has the ability to stop the threat should the need arise.


How is a gun a deterrent if the intruder does not know if you own one?


criminals play the odds...

When Australia (which never had any right to self defence by firearms) lost a few hundred thousand guns to the 1996 confiscation, home invasion type crimes increase markedly...obviously due to the impression that the crooks had that they were less likely to be violently opposed when entering an occupied residence.
 
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Maybe I am naive.

However I am beyond comfortable living without concealed or usable weapons in my home. I do not lock my house either. Life is good in my area.

I could try to use the Revolutionary war musket from my ancestor against an intruder.


Nothing wrong with that. I suspect most people who own guns likewise leave 'em locked up. I suspect a large number of CCW permit holders do likewise. I conceal usually only when out hiking.
 
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Originally Posted By: rjundi
Maybe I am naive.

However I am beyond comfortable living without concealed or usable weapons in my home. I do not lock my house either. Life is good in my area.

I could try to use the Revolutionary war musket from my ancestor against an intruder.


Agreed. I've never felt the need to cower behind a gun. My wife and I go walking and riding on a fairly remote trail, sometimes I go walking our rural gravel roads, and I've never felt the need to carry a weapon. We also frequently leave our doors unlocked, and if I run into town it wouldn't be unusual to leave the garage door/shop doors wide open, along with the house unlocked.

A neighbor down the road was cutting trees down on the edge of his property a couple years ago. He had his little fladbed trailer parked about 10 feet off the road with his chain saw, gas can and other equipment in plain sight on the trailer. It sat there, both day and night for several days while he was clearing the trees. Nobody bothered a thing.

Originally Posted By: Tempest

"New England", as per your listed location, has some of the lowest crime rates in the nation.

Maybe if you moved to the bad part of DC you might have a different opinion?


Why would anyone be foolish enough to move to one of the crime ridden areas of the country?
 
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Agreed. I've never felt the need to cower behind a gun.


I always love these posts. Yes, we gun owners "cower" behind our guns, living in mortal fear. The irony of course is that when something bad does happen, who do you call? People with guns...

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Why would anyone be foolish enough to move to one of the crime ridden areas of the country?


Stop being naive. Not everyone moves to bad towns or to a bad part of a town by choice. Sometimes they don't have a choice and sometimes they're simply born there. Not everyone is born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Or has the luxury of living in an area where leaving your doors unlocked is a very intelligent thing to do.
 
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Agreed. I've never felt the need to cower behind a gun.


That one is really "out there", Pops.

You say the sweetest things.
 
Do you folks with children use trigger locks on the weapons at home? I think that is what fears me most.

Not sure if it happens often but I know two (now messed up) people who killed their friends as children playing with a gun.
 
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