College recuiting commercials - visible increase?

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Is it just me ..or are colleges/universities running short of students? I've seen more "Come here - we have what you need" type stuff on tv then I have every before.

Are the squids running out of ink?? That is, even "financial aid" isn't filling the vacancies??
 
Good question. Typically when you see advertisements for hospitals, it means they are financially hurting and need more patients.

One would think that money handouts are drying up. I suppose though that there is the supply and demand for borrowing to attend. Increasingly there are more foreign students entering our universities. I don't know what the financial arrangements for foreign students are. I suppose we in the U.S. are paying for it.
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I don't know what the financial arrangements for foreign students are. I suppose we in the U.S. are paying for it.
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Maybe you should inform yourself before claiming that. As a foreign student I had to pay much higher tuition than residents. Look at the international student tuition fees of several colleges and universities online. Foreign students often pay quadruple tuition fees. There are no loans or financial aid provided by US sources. At entry into the US and when enrolling at the school, the foreign student has to show proof of sufficient funds (used to be $13,000 in addition to tuition money for every year -- don't know how much it's now) for the time he intends to study at a US school. Foreign students must also maintain a higher GPA (3.0, if I remember correctly) than residents in order to not flunk out. Not that that's an issue with 9th grade level expectations.
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There's been a recent downward trend of students enrolling in universities. It's not for lack of smart students, rather it's attributed to the enormous cost of attending school, coupled with reduced payback of owning the average degree.
 
I guess Texas is, uh special.

They'd have to pay me lot of money to spend any time in Texas. The heat, the cold, all the cattle -- I just can't stand it. No wait, Big Bend is nice.
 
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No, it's only an issue with the "lesser" universities. The decent schools are becoming more, and more popular, than ever before.
 
Foreigners, that are no from Latin America, are not allowed to be illegals. They are put in jail, and then deported if they overstay their visa. It was quite strict when I came to the US in the late 90-s as a student.

The tuition was double the out of state fees, and basically was almost four times the in state students' tuition. And as moribundman sid, no financial aid or any other help because we had already proven that we had the necessary funds before we were even allowed to apply for the visa.

I am not complaining - it actually makes sense because the foreigners had not paid taxes to the American government which in its turn subsidises the American students' tuition fees pretty much like the difference between the in state and out of state student tuition.

And foreign students are not allowed to work either. We were actually jealous of the illegal immigrants making the big bucks working illegally.
 
costs too much so people are probably learning a trade instead of getting a degree - a lot of times they pay just as well, if not more.

state universities are getting up there in price too, still feel like you're stealing your education though when compared to a typical university.
 
The week after 9/11 one of the news channels reported that some of the Saudi hijackers who were in the US on student visas had received Pell grants, courtesy—of course!—of the taxpayers. I remember the mention in the story well, as it incensed me. (It hadn't been that many years since all the stink in Congress about felons in prison getting Pell grants, and as someone who was declared ineligible to get them because of "rich" working-class parents, I was pretty sensitive about the issue.) Also, over the years a number of people including me have had the perception that some foreign students and legal immigrants do get sweetheart deals on tuition and financial aid from certain universities.

BrianL703 is right, and it's not just Texas that gives in-state tuition rates to illegals. Several other states do it too. Here in Virginia we just passed legislation to ensure that illegals won't get in-state rates, and the media reported the practices in other states then.

Most news reports suggest that the number of college applicants is at or near all-time highs at most facilities. Universities are being highly selective in whom they accept, hence some of the stories appearing about extreme measures applicants take to get the admission departments' attention. College ads are much like the US Postal Service or your local electric power monopoly advertising: a waste of money. Ask any Virginia resident about VEPCO's constant, unnecessary newspaper and TV ads about how great the company was, while at the same time petitioning the state for electricity rate hikes in the 1970s and 1980s.

Colleges are in the same boat, but to be realistic, how often do you see the truly elite schools such as Harvard or MIT advertise? They don't need to, right?
 
When someone comes to the US on a student visa, they are allowed to travel in the country, and even miss some classes but they will be deported if they do not meet some GPA requirements. So it did not surprise me that some of the highjackers were on F1 student visa. It is one of the very few ways of coming into this country for a longer than 1-2 month stay.

As for the illegal immigrants from Lain America, I think there is a policy of accepting them as full fledged residents. If you look at the Selective Service requirements, you will see that the citizens, permanent residents AND illegal immigrants are Supposed to register for the service. That is the law.
 
AND illegal immigrants are Supposed to register for the service. That is the law.

So is being a "legal immigrant".
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I always thought we were just on a warped version of a recruitment drive ..for the future ..eh-hem "chilly wind".
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Gary,
Before you send any of the vermints off to school, be sure to read "Generation Debt" by Anya Kamenetz. Have them read it too as it could save you many $$$. Best $23.95 I've spent in a while.
 
The Mighty Obbop jumps up, aquiver with unadulterated passion, wildly screeching in a most horrendous manner.....

here in the cultural backwater of Omyhaw Nebraska, over yonder 'cross the holler from equally backwater upper midwest quasi-rural areas and small towns losing residents to them thar BIG cities scattered across the barren tornado-swept blizzard-ridden plains there apparently, on a subjective level, has been an increase in colleges advertising on the TV thing.

But, hereabouts, those colleges are mostly privae colleges, for-profit institutions, that coerce the unknowing into enrolling.

One TV ad shows some blonde hussy (she reminds me of a gal spending too much time on street corners) telling the viewer that they, too, can earn vast sums creating computer games. While the blonde babbles two idiotic males go bonkers playing a computer game.

No mention of the complexity of learning all that is needed to become hireable. Definitely NO mention of the very limited number of jobs in the industry nor the intense competition for those jobs.

Another for-profit college wants you to live the good life in Arizona while becoming a famous chef. No mention of the recent articles that can be found here and there about the glut of chefs on the market....that many graduates of cooking schools end up working for so-so wages at some chain restaurant.

Too bad more folks do not do some basic research into demand for career areas. The Occupational Outlook Handbook, available on-line, is a good place to start though far from being the drfinitive most reliable data source.

Read an article awhile back about how these private colleges grew exponentially at the end of World War 2 when millions of GIs entered private life with the GI Bill dollars ready to be spent.

And, for general principals.... tuition does not begin to cover the cost of running higher-education institutions...well, at least the public schools.

Private colleges, other than for-profit schools, tend to be associated with some outside group where funds are drawn from. A local small private college receives funds from the Lutheran church. Some schools receive huge endowments from alumni that helps keep tuition down.

And, a more complicated area... public and private colleges receiving largesse from the federal government....well, the transfer of YOUR money via taxation to education where too many of those dollars, in my opinion, allow extravagent lifestyles for the educational bureaucrats.....but this area is far too complicated to cover here.
 
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