Yeah, and regular gas is close to $5 per gallon around here. Solar works for me.
I live for peanuts nowadays. Took some doing to get here...
Cheap Electricity in our new energy efficient home - Compare if you can
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I live for peanuts nowadays. Took some doing to get here...
Service From: 05/31/2023 To: 06/30/2023
Wholesale Power Cost 1,301 kWh for $81.88
Bluebonnet Residential Service
65.49(Includes $22.50 Service Availability Charge)
Current Charges $147.37
81.88 divided by 1301 =
0.062936202
147.37 divided by 1301 = 0.11327440
Dale,Tx
Old house. Energy inefficient and window ac units. Quite warm here I might add. LOL
Wholesale Power Cost 1,301 kWh for $81.88
Bluebonnet Residential Service
65.49(Includes $22.50 Service Availability Charge)
Current Charges $147.37
81.88 divided by 1301 =
0.062936202
147.37 divided by 1301 = 0.11327440
Dale,Tx
Old house. Energy inefficient and window ac units. Quite warm here I might add. LOL
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Here in NE ohio I average about 15-16cents/kwh doesnt vary much with usage.
500 or 900kwh used the cost is still within a couple of bucks of the 15.5cents estimate.
I posted in previous threads about this(with actual bills). I looked for a min but couldnt find them.
500 or 900kwh used the cost is still within a couple of bucks of the 15.5cents estimate.
I posted in previous threads about this(with actual bills). I looked for a min but couldnt find them.
I paid $2,96 a gallon at the beach the other day and it was name brand Shell gasoline
Since I’m into electronics way more so than the general public if I lived “over there” I would be in awe over your solar system.
I saw a few in operation close up on our east coast a while ago with the electronics mounted outside the home near the electric meter.
I could swear I saw that my new electric utility pays back the exact retail price, I’ll verify. With all that said power is so cheap here that panels on homes are a pretty rare site.
Heck my last community of 15 years panels were banned by the HOA until 2 years ago and only allowed if out of sight on the back of homes with a possible exemption for shingle panels.
I wouldn’t mind a limited number in our new community just to supplement the daytime operation of the HVAC system because I love electronics but only if other taxpayers paid the full cost
I have no idea how much longer I may be in this earth or if this particular home is our final destination
so too costly for a return. Come to think of it I don’t think I’ve seen any here, maybe one but not sure in our community of I think we’ll over 1000 homes.
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OVERKILL
$100 Site Donor 2021
That works out to an all-in rate of $0.1616/kWhToo much effort to do multiple screen shots and edit out personal info because it’s split apart on multiple pages….. our utility charges a “flat rate” per kWh, but they have a bunch of adjustments and riders like fuel cost, transportation/delivery and blah blah blah that get tacked on. We have no other choice for electricity.
1,192kWh used
Customer charge: $13.50
Energy Use: $166.47
Tax: $12.60
And no, I’m not running an arc furnace in my living room, my highest was 1,598kWh last Julywife was hella pregnant and insisted on the AC being cranked, who am I to argue lol
Great price!
Our kWh rate as shown on my bill @ 10 cents in the OP is great but with the service charge my total bill isnt that great. Meaning being I use so little electricity even running the HVAC 24/7 the service charge cost a significant part of the bill at $29 and brings up my actual cost of energy to 17 cent kWh.
However if I used the same energy as you at 1301 my actual cost would be 13 cents a kWh...
The more electric I use my actual total cost per kWh of energy used comes out to less even though of course the bill is more.
This month last year in our 16 year old larger home (3000 sq ft) I used just over 1,400 kWr... now new home, smaller (1800 sq ft) and I still cant believe how little I use. But ironically the actual kWh price tag is higher even though the bill lower.
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I live in the Sou. Cal mountains and my rate is $0.30 per kWh. It can go up to $0.40 or even $0.45 if i cross into the high usage tier but I rarely hit the medium level. But there are also a bunch of other charges added to the bill, and then I qualify for their CARE discount for senior citizens which I subsidized since I was 18 and certainly deserve it now.
My last bill was for 389 kW and totaled $83.94. My home was built in 2018 so it has all the latest energy efficient features. I do rely on propane though for the furnace, stove/oven and dryer. And that is very expensive in the winter months. I paid around $2000 for a five month supply which was more than a 20% increase over the previous year due to the increases in propane rates.
It can get hot for a few weeks in the summer with daytime temps in the mid 80's but it cools down at night so I just open the windows and turn on fans. I can't imagine running the air conditioner 24/7. Actually when I lived in Virginia I did due to the humidity in the summer which was miserable. And I remember getting electric bills for $300 which was a lot of money in the mid 1990's.
My last bill was for 389 kW and totaled $83.94. My home was built in 2018 so it has all the latest energy efficient features. I do rely on propane though for the furnace, stove/oven and dryer. And that is very expensive in the winter months. I paid around $2000 for a five month supply which was more than a 20% increase over the previous year due to the increases in propane rates.
It can get hot for a few weeks in the summer with daytime temps in the mid 80's but it cools down at night so I just open the windows and turn on fans. I can't imagine running the air conditioner 24/7. Actually when I lived in Virginia I did due to the humidity in the summer which was miserable. And I remember getting electric bills for $300 which was a lot of money in the mid 1990's.
Here's mine
This is for 7/13/24 to 8/13/24 usage dates. It's somewhat thrown off year over year by how hot it was last year. We added an EV this year and still used almost 200kwh less energy than last year for the same billing period. I would say our summer temps were a little below average this year with only a handful of 100+ days. Last year it was well over 100 for weeks on end.
House is a late 2022 build, 2 story around 2650ish sq ft, 1 AC unit with split zoning with separate thermostats for upstairs and downstairs. 74 in the daytime and 72 at night, wife is not willing to go higher than that, I would set it to 78 in the daytime if I could because the vent in my home office is very strong for some reason. 16SEER Lennox unit.
This is for 7/13/24 to 8/13/24 usage dates. It's somewhat thrown off year over year by how hot it was last year. We added an EV this year and still used almost 200kwh less energy than last year for the same billing period. I would say our summer temps were a little below average this year with only a handful of 100+ days. Last year it was well over 100 for weeks on end.
House is a late 2022 build, 2 story around 2650ish sq ft, 1 AC unit with split zoning with separate thermostats for upstairs and downstairs. 74 in the daytime and 72 at night, wife is not willing to go higher than that, I would set it to 78 in the daytime if I could because the vent in my home office is very strong for some reason. 16SEER Lennox unit.
Summer, we turn on AC about 2/3 of the days this month and set our thermostat to 74-76F. Electric dryer 1 load every 3 days or so.
Don't trust the temperature. That's average, and those 69F months have quite a few 84F days.
I look at those prices per kWh and I can't believe we even live in the same country!!!
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Can you imagine what the people out the Mojave Desert are paying?
@PandaBear This literally just in for August 2024
@Brons2
Some great rates you have in the Lone Star State assuming the $184.85 is the total cost of your bill, actual payment? Or are there additional taxes, distribution costs ? When I mention prices, Im not talking cost of electricity to the home based on climate. I am most interested in total cost per kWh.
Meaning taking the total of the bill (actual payment that needs to be paid) and dividing the kWh's used. Really the only way to compare on a national level. @PandaBear bill is a perfect example of why. He is paying 25 cents a kWr and I assume solar panels! My total bill actual payment is 15 cents a kWh with no solar. The more power I use the cheaper per kWh as the cost of power is only 10 cents kWr but I add in taxes and all costs = actual payment
@Brons2
Some great rates you have in the Lone Star State assuming the $184.85 is the total cost of your bill, actual payment? Or are there additional taxes, distribution costs ? When I mention prices, Im not talking cost of electricity to the home based on climate. I am most interested in total cost per kWh.
Meaning taking the total of the bill (actual payment that needs to be paid) and dividing the kWh's used. Really the only way to compare on a national level. @PandaBear bill is a perfect example of why.
He is paying 25 cents a kWr and I assume solar panels! My total bill actual payment is 15 cents a kWh with no solar. The more power I use the cheaper per kWh as the cost of power is only 10 cents kWr but I add in taxes and all costs = actual payment
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Nick1994
$100 site donor 2024
1,900 square foot home here in Phoenix. 1950 red brick house, new windows last year. 1,500 square feet of the home has an old 3 ton A/C unit, 400 square feet of the home has a newer 18k BTU mini-split. My bedroom does have a new window A/C unit I turn on at night cold too.
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@Brons2
Some great rates you have in the Lone Star State assuming the $184.85 is the total cost of your bill, actual payment? Or are there additional taxes, distribution costs ? When I mention prices, Im not talking cost of electricity to the home based on climate. I am most interested in total cost per kWh.
Meaning taking the total of the bill (actual payment that needs to be paid) and dividing the kWh's used. Really the only way to compare on a national level. @PandaBear bill is a perfect example of why.
You forgot your solar panel installation cost's depreciation amortization.
I do not have solar. Reason for this rate is I refused to move to time of use plan and this is my rate for the older tier plan designed for days before smart meter is around. My usage is almost all in the peak hours so going there would not make much sense, and it would be even higher although not tiered by how many kwh I use per month. We have a municipal for electricity (Silicon Valley Clean Energy, charging slightly lower for generation, that's why you see the generation credits up there) using PG&E grid and they do buy about 50% "renewable", most likely from utility scale solar and hydro. Nobody pays 15c/kwh here regardless, because PG&E went bankrupt from all those rural powerline caused wildfires and they have to raise rate to pay for the fines and damages. Our transmission cost per kwh is typically about 50%.
Yeah, why is that always left out of the equation? Plus lost investment income/
and as we know CA no longer offers the rate for selling back electricity
We have one house that just installed solar here, at 10 cents kWh I wonder how they ever expect to re-coup their cost and they are retired people, so how long not only will they live but how long will they live here. Granted though for one thing, you get full retail cost for selling back electricity to our co-op.
I tell my wife when we talk to them one day, lets see if they moved here from the West Coast or Northeast *LOL*
For those of you who complains about PG&E no longer accept net metering at retail price, this is why. To fund the duck curve the cost in time of use rate plan can be up to 62c/kwh during peak in the summer from 4-9pm.
This is also why I refuse to move to this plan. Even the simulator says I will only save like $10 out of a $2100 per year usage and I have to worry about accidentally leaving an AC on with windows open in the summer burning $50. This is also why I refuse to buy an EV, because of this:
36c/kwh off peak and 72c/kwh peak would have been my non EV charging time's electricity cost. That can easily double my non EV charging portion's home electric rate.
JTK
$100 Site Donor 2025
My latest bill says my electric rate is $0.07894 per kwh.
I used 858 kwh for this 29day period. Total bill is $172.24, with the bulk of it being fees and taxes. This is higher than normal for me. Lots of use from one window shaker a/c unit and continual usage from the basement dehumidifier. ~2900 sq/foot home built in 1973. Family of 6.
I used 858 kwh for this 29day period. Total bill is $172.24, with the bulk of it being fees and taxes. This is higher than normal for me. Lots of use from one window shaker a/c unit and continual usage from the basement dehumidifier. ~2900 sq/foot home built in 1973. Family of 6.
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