Change oil and filter every 5K or sooner. Why tempt the devil? Where is the upside?
That video is one of the reasons I started this thread. I typically change the oil every 7500 miles, but I wanted to raise that to 10k. So doing a little research, I found that video. Says not to do 10k. Made me question my 7500 interval.
But I'm not sure what percentage of the miles should be excluded, because of the hybrid. I estimate that it's low. It seems like the engine runs for about 90% of the time the car is in use, but that's just a guess. Most of the car's miles are highway miles at about 60-65 mph, because it's a work car and I have a 35 minute commute mon-friday. 70 minutes round trip.
It seemed like I change the oil fairly frequently and it's somewhat inconvenient. Thus, I wanted to increase to 10k miles. Now I'm questioning changing it at 7500. I do want the engine to last all the way to 250k miles.
I thought maybe the royal purple filter could extend the lifespan of an oil change. Since it's supposed to be able to clean the oil all the way up to 10k miles. But hey, I'm not attached to royal purple. In my original plan, any 10k mile filter would do.
Remember to take into account that your engine is not running all the time. At 7500 miles the engine might run 5000 or so of that.
Yeah I wish I knew that number. Then I'd just go up from there. If I knew the percentage, I could add that mileage to 5,000 and change the oil then. So maybe I'll just stick with a 7500 interval.
UOAs really do not tell you much of anything about what's going on inside the engine.If you do not believe 10,000 mile drain intervals then support your claim with UOA. It either is or is not.
This is for all Toyota engines period the end. I was a Toyota tech as well.No one has shown data on the A25A motor that 10k OCI's lead to oil burning, or excessive wear in the combustion chamber.
The 2AR motor in the video, we don't know which (likely) 0w20 oil was used.
Note, AMD usually insists on TGMO (except for the video on the Corolla GR), which has a stout additive package, despite not using a Group IV base.
The gas engine is running anything over 40 mph. Under light acceleration, before 50 if hard accelerationRemember to take into account that your engine is not running all the time. At 7500 miles the engine might run 5000 or so of that.
He uses Mobil 1 as wellNo one has shown data on the A25A motor that 10k OCI's lead to oil burning, or excessive wear in the combustion chamber.
The 2AR motor in the video, we don't know which (likely) 0w20 oil was used.
Note, AMD usually insists on TGMO (except for the video on the Corolla GR), which has a stout additive package, despite not using a Group IV base.
Mobil 1 was only for the GR Corolla video, as he didn't see the SP RC and ILSAC approvals on the TGMO bottle, so he went with Mobil 1.He uses Mobil 1 as well
Why the Royal Purple oil filter the Efficiency is 99% at 25 microns and it's an expensive filter? The cheap Orange can of death has as good as efficiency. A Fram Tough Guard will serve you better and cheaper with better efficiency. Interval would depend on your driving. But me I'd simplify it and go with April/October OCI's because it looks like you're doing a little over 17,000 mile a year.Hi all, I have a 2018 Toyota Camry Hybrid. I have to use 0w16 oil. What I want to do, is use a 10,000 mile Royal Purple oil filter. And then change the oil at 8,000 miles. Is this a good idea?
IIRC, toyota's minimum required maintenance (to satisfy your warranty) is 10,000 miles. It has 70k miles on it right now, and I want the engine to last to 250k miles.
Is there any reason I shouldn't do this? Simply use the required 0w16 oil with a 10k mile oil filter. But change the oil every 8,000 miles.
Thank you
No one has shown data on the A25A motor that 10k OCI's lead to oil burning, or excessive wear in the combustion chamber.
The 2AR motor in the video, we don't know which (likely) 0w20 oil was used.
Note, AMD usually insists on TGMO (except for the video on the Corolla GR), which has a stout additive package, despite not using a Group IV base.
Driving 25-30k per year helps too. Then you can drive faster than it rusts away.If you want the engine to last 250k miles, I'd recommend:
1. 5000 mile oil and filter changes together
2. Synthetic oil in 0w30 or 5w30, unless in extreme cold climate where I might consider a 0w20
3. Any filter with a silicone ADBV, oversized if there is room, and preferably with synthetic media
4. Don't forget to cut the coolant interval in 1/2 and also change the cap/thermostat every 10years or 100k
5. Don't forget to change the ATF more often
6. Shorten the engine air filter interval
Blindly taking care of engine and neglecting all else is foolish.
What's with the filter issue? Both my Ford's and the 4Runner call for 7,500 OCI's in the manual and use plain jane OEM filters. Are filters marked as "good for 5k miles"? The only ones I see marked are 10k or 20k.
Toyota hybrids do not “do a lot of start and stop running” in the traditional sense. When restarted the engine is already warm, oil in journals, the little electric motor smoothly spins the engine up to speed (a variable speed motor control is used), then fuel and spark is added. No engine starts softer, easier, or cleaner.
You sure you’re not hearing the generator come on and not the engine. The generator is loud as well.That has not been my experience with our Toyota hybrid. Once the vehicle and engine has been running for awhile then yes that is 100% true.
However the ICE will stop and start while the oil and such are still cold. I’ve started the vehicle and let it set while to thaw the windows on a cold day. And I’ve heard the ICE kick on and off multiple times before the windows could thaw. No way the engine and oil are up to operating temp that quickly just idling. Also you can hear the DI system clacking. It’s crazy loud on these A25A engines.
So I’d say on the one hand when fully warm then yes it’s far better. But on the other hand while still cold it’s far worse and not the best conditions.