Bye bye Valvoline EP

[4WD]

Chavez died like 10 years ago.

After trying out CubaCare

 

[Mainia]

It will go on rollback.

What?……almost 100,000 miles on a 22 Hyundai? Are you an interstate delivery service?

 

[4WD]

Valvoline is $29 and no better than QSS at $21 …

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Valvoline is $29 and no better than QSS at $21 …

Only problem is QSFS is now $22.97 I think we call this trickle up inflation.

 

[wemay]

What?……almost 100,000 miles on a 22 Hyundai? Are you an interstate delivery service?

7500 on the '22 Palisade
3400 on the '22 Accent
Did I say we have 100k miles our '22 somewhere?

 

[4WD]

Only problem is QSFS is now $22.97 I think we call this trickle up inflation.

$21.48 here … but I just bought 8 jugs M1/PP for an undisclosed price …

 

[PimTac]

Chavez died like 10 years ago.

Yep. That little fact is important.

 

[Fordiesel69]

I let my stash dwindle down and i am not liking these new oil prices. Hopefully during the winters there are some deals......

 

[DGXR]

Do we see Mobil 1 or Pennzoil rebates anymore? Maybe rebates on other name brands?
I haven't bought oil in a few years and don't plan to pay full price next time.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

Overall it's a lot more depending on OCI. I'm not challenging you on HPL as I've looked into them and I do believe they have a product above and beyond the average oil. But let's get to the issue. I'm using Mobil 1 EP and Pennz Plat in 5-30 at a cost of about $28 for 5 quarts. My OCI is 8k with a Fram Ultra filter. I'm not comfortable going past 8k so I don't feel HPL is providing me anything over Mobil 1 or Pennz Plat. Can you provide any data that proves it's better for the additional cost?

And I'm honest and open. You could make the same argument to me that many other oils that I mentioned could do the same with my parameters.

If you bought a 5 gallon bucket of @High Performance Lubricants PCMO, you’re at about $39/gallon, plus filter. That’s about a 67% increase over your current oil. If you did a UOA vs a drain @ 8-10k, there’s another $40. That makes your first oil change on HPL about the cost of two normal OCIs.

But your UOA showed you were fine out to 2x+ your 8k limit, and therefore now the HPL is equal cost or less compared to your normal oil, and it also saves you an extra trip under the car.

Not arguing, just fleshing out the opposite side of the discussion. Do what you feel treats your machine the best

 

[ka9mnx]

Do we see Mobil 1 or Pennzoil rebates anymore? Maybe rebates on other name brands?
I haven't bought oil in a few years and don't plan to pay full price next time.

I think with the state of our economy rebates are a thing of the past. Be sure to vote in November.

 

[jackjoachim]

If you bought a 5 gallon bucket of @High Performance Lubricants PCMO, you’re at about $39/gallon, plus filter. That’s about a 67% increase over your current oil. If you did a UOA vs a drain @ 8-10k, there’s another $40. That makes your first oil change on HPL about the cost of two normal OCIs.

But your UOA showed you were fine out to 2x+ your 8k limit, and therefore now the HPL is equal cost or less compared to your normal oil, and it also saves you an extra trip under the car.

Not arguing, just fleshing out the opposite side of the discussion. Do what you feel treats your machine the best

So if you’re not doing over longer drain intervals (5k miles and up) a premium oil (Valvoline, M1) wouldn’t be worth it?

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

So if you’re not doing over longer drain intervals (5k miles and up) a premium oil (Valvoline, M1) wouldn’t be worth it?

I personally don’t think so. If you’re dead set on super short intervals (B] for the engine in question was incapable of providing sufficient protection over those OCIs. There is plenty of data (dnewton3 has posted before on this IIRC) of people even exceeding 5k+ on conventional and having plenty of reserves in the oil’s performance.

 

[giskkk]

Really like the oil in 5W30 in my Tacoma doing 5k OCI. The price difference compared to M1 EP is a little suppressing. Thinking about switching to that next time.

For ME, my Tundra 5.7 sounds a lot better using Valvoline EP than Mobil 1. I’ll pay $5 more for now but QSFS is tempting.

 

[Jocephus]

For ME, my Tundra 5.7 sounds a lot better using Valvoline EP than Mobil 1. I’ll pay $5 more for now.

My tundra 5.7 sounds better on Valvoline EP as well.

 

[jackjoachim]

For ME, my Tundra 5.7 sounds a lot better using Valvoline EP than Mobil 1. I’ll pay $5 more for now.

Couldn’t agree more.

 

[4WD]

Thread has reached the yawn stage …

 

[Mainia]

Since I change the oil in my wife's car at 5,000 mile intervals, I'm going to have to move on to a new oil, probably Super Tech...I can't justify the price

7500 on the '22 Palisade
3400 on the '22 Accent
Did I say we have 100k miles our '22 somewhere?

Whoops......ha ha I did not have my glasses on and took the filter # for mileage.

 

[Mainia]

I am dropping use of my favorite oil, Redline Performance 5w-30 Euro. It went from $12.95 a qt to 17.97 a qt. I can't justify $85 for an oil change. I just bought 3) 5 liter jugs of Motul 8100-Clean Gen 2 5w-40 on an Amazon special for $47 a jug, free shipping. My Kona uses 4 liters with filter.

 

[Oey12]

Are you guys with the 5.7 Tundras using 0W20 or 5W30…. My 5.7 has been quite noisy lately.