Bye bye Valvoline EP

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Averroes said:
I laugh when you Americans complain about price. What you are paying for regular price, even after the rate exchange into CAD, is what we pay for some oils when they are on sale. . . Let's not forget the 13% tax here in Ontario. However, money is money I suppose.

Also the whole "owned by the Saudis" point in irrelevant in this modern day and age as companies right here at home (USA and Canada) do terrible things as well in the realms of: politics, economics, social issues, war and other areas of life.

However, I understand, not everything is objective, there are subjective aspects to making decicions as well and in the end, we are only human. A change to, QSUD, PP or M1 would be a good choice, can't go wrong with any of them.
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Yup - that section was a quick pass at Canadian Tire - headed back to fishing tackle …
 
Valvoline does not have the advantage of making their own components like some so they have to buy them from others. The others will not give those away so the end prices reflect that. If the others raise their prices up that puts Valvoline in a spot.

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PimTac said:
Valvoline does not have the advantage of making their own components like some so they have to buy them from others. The others will not give those away so the end prices reflect that. If the others raise their prices up that puts Valvoline in a spot.

The names have been replaced by others in order to convey a thought and not get booted.
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Well said. Those vertically integrated oil products corporations do have an advantage -- they're not reliant upon other companies for material sourcing. Then again, competition from the smaller blenders keep the low number of "big boys" honest and on their collective toes. I typically root for the little guys. :)
 
Jocephus said:
I’m running 0w20
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Noise ain't good. Which 0w-20 are you running? You could try a thicker 0w-20 like PUP, or a thin 30w, like PP, for starters. Jmo, reduce/eliminate the noise with the lightest oil grade you can use.
 
FZ1 said:
Noise ain't good. Which 0w-20 are you running? You could try a thicker 0w-20 like PUP, or a thin 30w, like PP, for starters. Jmo, reduce/eliminate the noise with the lightest oil grade you can use.
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i think you quoted the wrong person. I said earlier in the thread (page 6 post 115) that I’m running valvoline ep 0w20, which is far quieter than anything I’ve run except the Amsoil Sig and I have no complaints about the VEP.

Edit: this is my 3rd Tundra with the 5.7. If you go look on tundra forums the 5.7 is known to make some noise.
 
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Jocephus said:
i think you quoted the wrong person. I said earlier in the thread (page 6 post 115) that I’m running valvoline ep 0w20, which is far quieter than anything I’ve run except the Amsoil Sig and I have no complaints about the VEP.

Edit: this is my 3rd Tundra with the 5.7. If you go look on tundra forums the 5.7 is known to make some noise.
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Thanks.
 
Well, don’t worry about spending extra on a $32 dollar jug of Valvoline, they all went up to $32 dollars a jig at Walmart this week...Mobil1, Castrol, Valvoline, just about everything but Super Tech at $26.
 
Foxtrot08 said:
18 price increases in 21 months on the wholesale level.

As well as perpetual shortages of additives for the last 18 months.

Grease supply consistently strained and short of product.


Yep, things are gonna get more expensive.
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COVID still used as the excuses why stuff still isn't back in mass production
 
doublebase said:
Well, don’t worry about spending extra on a $32 dollar jug of Valvoline, they all went up to $32 dollars a jig at Walmart this week...Mobil1, Castrol, Valvoline, just about everything but Super Tech at $26.
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Picked up 3 more jugs of QSUD Euro 5w-40 at WM today. Still $22 and change.
 
SteveG4 said:
Well said. Those vertically integrated oil products corporations do have an advantage -- they're not reliant upon other companies for material sourcing. Then again, competition from the smaller blenders keep the low number of "big boys" honest and on their collective toes. I typically root for the little guys. :)
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The problem with the big guys: They’re typically single sourced. Which is why we had the HDEO scarcity a few months ago. And the PCEO scarcity now.

Smaller blenders can change formulations faster. But that means they don’t have the contracts with other suppliers to get base oils and additives.

I’m a distributor - and I had major brands buying HDEO from me. I at one point, was asked to provide 32 truck loads a week for a major automotive OEM brand. Which, I simply couldn’t do. We did end up doing something and I’ll leave it at that.

Grease is another interesting situation right now. I deal with a major grease manufacturer directly and have a great relationship with the family who owns it. And… it’s very beneficial to me now.
 
ka9mnx said:
Picked up 3 more jugs of QSUD Euro 5w-40 at WM today. Still $22 and change.
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I’ll have to grab some before it’s too late. My wife’s Mercedes takes the euro formula. I didnt even realize that QSUD made a euro formula, good to know.
 
Foxtrot08 said:
The problem with the big guys: They’re typically single sourced. Which is why we had the HDEO scarcity a few months ago. And the PCEO scarcity now.

Smaller blenders can change formulations faster. But that means they don’t have the contracts with other suppliers to get base oils and additives.

I’m a distributor - and I had major brands buying HDEO from me. I at one point, was asked to provide 32 truck loads a week for a major automotive OEM brand. Which, I simply couldn’t do. We did end up doing something and I’ll leave it at that.

Grease is another interesting situation right now. I deal with a major grease manufacturer directly and have a great relationship with the family who owns it. And… it’s very beneficial to me now.
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I don't understand.

Thot the "big guys" were vertically integrated for a reason -- 1) so they weren't reliant upon others for resources, and 2) for maximizing profits? If a small handful of "big guys" both refine the oil and make the additives, possess the needed distribution channels (logistics), and perhaps even product packaging, wouldn't you think they'd protect their own material supply levels? Wouldn't they protect their own manufacturing before supplying outsiders?

I'm missing something here...
 
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Ford73 said:
Why do people struggle with facts? No, he did not. Biden issued an executive order that paused new oil and gas lease sales on government land pending a review which a federal judge struck down a few months later. Oil production did NOT change following that order. Heck, Biden has surpassed Trump in issuing drilling permits on public land since that time.

There always seems to be Internet "researchers" who like to troll everyone with false information and half-truths for political points.

Stop spreading disinformation.
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There's something known as a "futures market". Maybe check it out!
 
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