My daytime rate is 25 cents. But I don't really pay that. I'll let everyone speculate as to why.
Can you just tell me?
I wont tell anyone else.
My daytime rate is 25 cents. But I don't really pay that. I'll let everyone speculate as to why.
Renewables are better. There's a shortage of gas turbine production capacity if you haven't heard. Renewables and storage can be deployed far more quickly than gas generation.Also the only short term fix is likely natural gas. Gas is virtually free currently because we have more than we can use. That price will change when we start using it. Europe pays 6X more for nat gas than we do.
Here's the answer.Can you just tell me?
I wont tell anyone else.
That's pretty common when you get close to Superchargers. There's not much reason to use them locally unless you don't have home charging. There's a really popular Supercharger in the Wisconsin Dells that's you always see a lot of Teslas coming and going. I know I'd see even more Teslas here if there was a Supercharger in town.Most of the Tesla's I see are not local. The Tesla charging station at the Hy-Vee Food Store is just off exit 16 on I-35 North. It is mostly out of state plates or no front plate which is a dead giveaway. I see some Fords charging there on occasion. There are quite a few Mach-E's running around that are local.
I think it's growing at the necessary rate for EV adoption. At least for now it's just people who want EVs buying EVs. Freedom of choice, right? I haven't had a problem with public charging either and I can only think of one time I've had to wait for a charger which was around 5 minutes after arrival. I've definitely waited an a gas pump more times and longer than that in the past.Yes I could have been more specific. We haven’t increased electricity production in 30 years. Our big issue is overall electricity production - for AI, for industrial reshoring if we’re going to do that. And for EV if we’re going to do that. Sounds like a big lift.
Also the only short term fix is likely natural gas. Gas is virtually free currently because we have more than we can use. That price will change when we start using it. Europe pays 6X more for nat gas than we do.
Politicians are all about blocking construction of new generation facilities which would add debt that can be charged back to the consumer. But that doesn't change the fact we have lots of surplus capacity at night as evidenced by the implementation of T.O.U. billing rates.You seem to somehow think that politicians are not involved in electricity production, and I gave you an example of exactly how much they are. You think it would be any different with expanding the electrical grid?
Every EV has one or more timer function on their charging circuit. Lower the price when most available and EV owner will dutifully set that as the time to charge without your vision of centralized control. Of course this flies totally in the face of politicians' Need To Spend Money On Infrastructure And Give Us Gas Stations Just Like ICE Vehicles Use. "EV Gas Stations" impart instantaneous 100kW to 400kW loads on the grid during the day when cost is greatest and resource least available.Were not 50% underutilized at night. Peak to trough is maybe 50% in a few places but it peaks and bottoms for a very short period of time and completely ignores the interconnects. You would have to put EV charging on some sort of transmitted smart charge system based on capacity and demand, which no one is even talking about let alone doing.
Gee, there must be a surplus of generating capacity at night!Can't speak to other regions, but here in Texas I get free nights. EVs can be configured for time of use charging, as can the chargers themselves. Mine charge at night when the power is free.
You sit up all night forming AI inquiries?AI doesn’t run at night?
Most of the AI projects are inclusive - ie a gas turbine plant is built right next to a data center. The data center won’t sleep so that power never hits the broader grid.
Europe will pay a lot for NG because shipping NG ain't cheap. But they do what they have to to get it.Also the only short term fix is likely natural gas. Gas is virtually free currently because we have more than we can use. That price will change when we start using it. Europe pays 6X more for nat gas than we do.
He can pack it in battery storage at night for use during the day.Can you just tell me?
I wont tell anyone else.
100%. If the rates were lower at night for me I'd charge then every time. I work on call so that doesn't always fit my needs, but you better believe I'd take the cheapest fuel I can get when it's available.Politicians are all about blocking construction of new generation facilities which would add debt that can be charged back to the consumer. But that doesn't change the fact we have lots of surplus capacity at night as evidenced by the implementation of T.O.U. billing rates.
Every EV has one or more timer function on their charging circuit. Lower the price when most available and EV owner will dutifully set that as the time to charge without your vision of centralized control. Of course this flies totally in the face of politicians' Need To Spend Money On Infrastructure And Give Us Gas Stations Just Like ICE Vehicles Use. "EV Gas Stations" impart instantaneous 100kW to 400kW loads on the grid during the day when cost is greatest and resource least available.
He can pack it in battery storage at night for use during the day.
And likely has at least some PV generation during the day to run his house and possibly charge batteries.
When I recoup the upfront investment, what will the cost be?I figured it was something like that.
Thats not free though. There is a price per cycle that costs something.
The universe at large doesn't believe in free, there is always some price to pay.