Which would you prefer to run & why?
Baldwin/Hastings vs Wix
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Baldwin/Hastings doesn't give oil filter performance information AFAIK. (I've never found it or seen it posted.) I think they just use plain old cellulose paper filter media, just adequate. Oil filters for trucks there might be different, just talking car stuff here.
Wix and the same NAPA Gold oil filters publish 95% @ 20 microns, not as good as Fram ToughGuard or Fram Ultra at 99% @ 20 micons, yet the Wix/Golds are good.
Also try to use an oil filter with a silicon ADBV, not nitrile or butyl.
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Hastings have a silicone adbv as well as the Nnapa gold , platinum and Wix. Both brands are recommended by my Honda mechanic and he has been working on cars since 78. Other mechanics as well prefer the Wix.. I like them and they stand up well even in the extreme MN winters we have here, You can find Hastings and Baldwin on amazon..
The cheaper wix filters use a rubber adbv but they last 7-10 k before falling apart.. Good to use in spring/summer and into fall but come fall/winter I use a filter with the silicone adbv..
Napa and carquest also carry the wix brand.
Regular Wix and NAPA Gold oil filters have silicon ADBV for hot/cold resistance, good to have. See http://www.ford-trucks.com/ford-manuals/Oil_Filter_Cutaway_Comparison.pdf
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Originally Posted By: ElastoHydro
Baldwin/Hastings doesn't give oil filter performance information AFAIK. (I've never found it or seen it posted.) I think they just use plain old cellulose paper filter media, just adequate. Oil filters for trucks there might be different, just talking car stuff here.
Wix and the same NAPA Gold oil filters publish 95% @ 20 microns, not as good as Fram ToughGuard or Fram Ultra at 99% @ 20 micons, yet the Wix/Golds are good.
Also try to use an oil filter with a silicon ADBV, not nitrile or butyl.
Originally Posted By: andrewp1998
Hastings have a silicone adbv as well as the Nnapa gold , platinum and Wix. Both brands are recommended by my Honda mechanic and he has been working on cars since 78. Other mechanics as well prefer the Wix.. I like them and they stand up well even in the extreme MN winters we have here, You can find Hastings and Baldwin on amazon..
Originally Posted By: andrewp1998
Hastings have a silicone adbv as well as the Nnapa gold , platinum and Wix.
Thanks for everyone's responses.
I just received an email from Baldwin about their B1402, the specific filter for my application:
"B1402 has a 23 nominal with a 45 absolute micron rating. Average efficiency is 75.98%." ... works out to be 98.7% @ 45 microns and 50% @ 23 microns. B1402 has 117.1 sq in of media, 11.2g capacity, BX2=23, BX75=45, burst psi 265.
Compared with the WIX 51356 that has a beta of 2/20=6/20 (95% @ 20 microns, 50% @ 6 microns).
Sounds like the standard Wix filters better, at least when comparing the B1402 to the 51356!
this is why I have a man crush on baldwin.. very open with the technical info. Last filter order I made was all red filters. 
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
You're talking about a well constructed oil filter with either Baldwin/Hastings or Wix/NAPA Gold.....
.....Use any of these with confidence.
For some more information on Hastings filters check out the thread I put up some time ago. Like the previous poster said, I also had excellent luck with Hastings tech. info.
Here's a link to the thread:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3392512/PF63,_PF48,_LF641,_LF613,_5706#Post3392512
Also:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb..._Fi#Post3406906
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Here is what Hastings told me about the filters for my Firebird (I asked for their opinion on whether I should use the oversized AC Delco PF52 equivalent instead of the PF47):
Derek,
The LF233 and LF393 are the same except for the length. The LF393 is longer. I would recommend using what the application calls for which is the LF233. If you use the LF393 we cannot guarantee it should you have any problems.
Spec sheet is attached.
Sandy
I know from past experience that the oversized PF52 equivalent works on applications that use the PF47 if there is room, so I'm not sure why they're hesitant about it. They're pretty much exactly the same aside from the length and amount of media, IIRC. I've used the oversized filter on my Firebird and also a 2003 Malibu that I used to maintain.
BTW, the filtration is nothing to write home about. If I understand the beta ratios correctly, it's 50% at 18 microns and 95% at 40 microns?
I know from past experience that the oversized PF52 equivalent works on applications that use the PF47 if there is room, so I'm not sure why they're hesitant about it. They're pretty much exactly the same aside from the length and amount of media, IIRC. I've used the oversized filter on my Firebird and also a 2003 Malibu that I used to maintain.
BTW, the filtration is nothing to write home about. If I understand the beta ratios correctly, it's 50% at 18 microns and 95% at 40 microns?
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BTW, the filtration is nothing to write home about. If I understand the beta ratios correctly, it's 50% at 18 microns and 95% at 40 microns?
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
BTW, the filtration is nothing to write home about. If I understand the beta ratios correctly, it's 50% at 18 microns and 95% at 40 microns?
Thanks for the correction.I would guess that they put this filter together with this efficiency ratio based on/modeled after the OEM filter?
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Exactly. They are quality made, but when it comes down to their ability to filter oil, they are nothing special.
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