90+ in a regular bus, 150+ in a harmonica. But they would have to be very thin people.
Backdoor kill-switches in every car by 2026
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I would have no problem with it, as long as I can disable these features as soon as I take delivery.
Sounds like you'll never have a car newer than a 2025 if this is standard in all cars by 2026.
i am a kid, i don't ever want a car that can connect to the internet. I've seen enough sketchy stuff online, i don't want it to be able to access my car. i don't even like automatic trannys, they only do what I want when im going a constant speed.
Biden signed the law last year, thought the implementation date was 2025 though…
Man, I keep forgetting how many people on this forum are severe technophobes.
Pretty wide range, too.
"I don't want cars to stop me from being a drunk driver" all the way to "Seat belt mandates infringe on my freedumbs"
I'm amazed that no one complained about speed limiters being set to the original speed rating of the tires that were equipped on the car from the factory. "It makes me so mad to be limited to 112 mph in my Buick Rendezvous"
God, I hope all future cars get full 100% autonomous driving, so I don't have to worry about people like you actually operating a car on the road with myself, my family, and friends anymore.
I do understand the one guy who was saying "What if I'm driving on a nice twisty road, having fun?"
I feel for you. Better get your "forever" car, soon.
Pretty wide range, too.
"I don't want cars to stop me from being a drunk driver" all the way to "Seat belt mandates infringe on my freedumbs"
I'm amazed that no one complained about speed limiters being set to the original speed rating of the tires that were equipped on the car from the factory. "It makes me so mad to be limited to 112 mph in my Buick Rendezvous"
God, I hope all future cars get full 100% autonomous driving, so I don't have to worry about people like you actually operating a car on the road with myself, my family, and friends anymore.
I do understand the one guy who was saying "What if I'm driving on a nice twisty road, having fun?"
I feel for you. Better get your "forever" car, soon.
This is just sad. A complete misrepresentation and total lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
The core problem is not with the technology but with the government gradually usurping more and more freedoms from individuals under the pretext of "safety" mandates which carry far reaching unintended consequences.
I am not a technophobe by any stretch of the imagination. I work in IT and I love to play with the newest tech both at work and at home. But I would have a major issue with a government mandate to have an "Alexa" device in every room listening to every conversation under the pretext of "safety for all residents."
A backdoor kill switch mandate in cars gets us really close to an Orwellian/Minority Report style dystopia. Unlike seatbelts, airbags or backup cameras, this device will prevent the car from moving. When it fails/malfunctions, as all electronic devices do, it will create life-threatening situations. Think railroad crossings, heavy highway traffic, etc. It's also an open invitation to abuse by criminals and governments. It gives the government a new, huge, unchecked power: to shut down all car traffic at a whim of some idiot politician. I can just see it ... "Public announcement: to ensure compliance with covid-25 quarantine, all personal vehicles are disabled until further notice."
Lol, 5 pages over this:
apnews.com
Posts distort infrastructure law’s rule on impaired driving technology
CLAIM: President Joe Biden signed a bill that will give law enforcement access to a “kill switch” that will be attached to ALL new cars in 2026. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False.
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Conspiracy minded people love to blow things out of proportion, because that's how they get the attention they crave from others.
Again, having a car equipped with technology that prevents a drunk driver from starting their car, and driving it, is a benefit to all the rest of us on the road.
Again, having a car equipped with technology that prevents a drunk driver from starting their car, and driving it, is a benefit to all the rest of us on the road.
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Frankly, I’d be more willing to have a brethalyzer or similar thing mandated, then some unknown code, accessible to some unknown entities, to do various things with it at their whim.
The automated part is subject to failure and misinterpretation. The human in the loop part has endless possibility for issues.
We should outlaw annoying cars then.
Short anecdote: My brother's ex was a horrible driver. Not aggressive, she just seemed incompetent. Very anxious behind the wheel. Erratic steering and pedal input, stupid last minute decisions, seeing and reacting to other participants in the last second, etc. In short: she seemed completely overwhelmed. She was not at ease, and it showed. Then her Renault Twingo broke down and she got to drive her parents' 1990s E-class. Suddenly that same girl could drive! Calm, considerate, in total control. Do not underestimate how your mental state is affecting your driving. (That's also why you really shouldn't get behind the wheel directly after an emotional situation). Also do not underestimate the effect that a car can have on your mental state. If a car does not put a smile on your face, don't drive it.
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What you call "conspiracy" I call "a spoiler".
The technology already exists to shut down the cars from I'd say 2002 to now. It all started with systems like GM's Onstar system, that can do almost anything a high end scan tool can do. Telematics is so totally integrated into all modern vehicles now, that adding this new system will not be difficult for them to do at all. It will just be a new added black box with a few more sensors, plugged into the same existing CAN system.
But I'm sure there will be a nice huge added cost all get to pay, at purchase time and when it is used by whom ever to disable the vehicle.
All the new cars I suppose are constantly being GPS tracked, and even in the vehicle voice communications monitored as well.
That " C" word means you are aware of what the happenings and goals are.
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What would we do without the fact checkers?Lol, 5 pages over this:
Posts distort infrastructure law’s rule on impaired driving technology
CLAIM: President Joe Biden signed a bill that will give law enforcement access to a “kill switch” that will be attached to ALL new cars in 2026. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False.
This device won't prevent drivers on narcotics or marijuana though. Illinois is starting to see a sharp increase in driving while impaired ever since it legalized marijuana. I had a Intoxilot on my car due to my last DUI and it was a real pain to use. Plus, it wasn't always accurate and took several minutes to "warm up" during the Winter.
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