Don't forget the Facebook plague where 99% of all people live in LaLa land and everything is just sunshine and roses.
Average wedding in America $ 25,000
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Originally Posted By: javacontour
I think some have a hard time distinguishing between needs and wants.
If your goal is to marry, then perhaps all you need is a trip to the courthouse or, if you think it's a religious thing, a visit to your local church with a few witnesses. But many want the Cinderella wedding. That's fine, as long as you recognize it as a want and not some basic need.
spot on!
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Don't forget the Facebook plague where 99% of all people live in LaLa land and everything is just sunshine and roses.
You probably missed the fact that 99% of businesses have a FB page
I have one and I keep in contact with family, dozens of H.S. classmates from 50 years ago and earlier. Couple people in my neighborhood 65+ years ago., Retired work employees, Our church has a FB page.
Obviously you have not really checked FB out..wich is fine. But to catagorize something you know little about..FTL
I think some have a hard time distinguishing between needs and wants.
If your goal is to marry, then perhaps all you need is a trip to the courthouse or, if you think it's a religious thing, a visit to your local church with a few witnesses. But many want the Cinderella wedding. That's fine, as long as you recognize it as a want and not some basic need.
spot on!
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Don't forget the Facebook plague where 99% of all people live in LaLa land and everything is just sunshine and roses.
You probably missed the fact that 99% of businesses have a FB page
I have one and I keep in contact with family, dozens of H.S. classmates from 50 years ago and earlier. Couple people in my neighborhood 65+ years ago., Retired work employees, Our church has a FB page.
Obviously you have not really checked FB out..wich is fine. But to catagorize something you know little about..FTL
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Al,
I'm talking about the idiots trying to show off on Facebook.
I'm talking about the idiots trying to show off on Facebook.
For me it was a major social event for my mother-in-law, with her only child getting married. They insisted on paying for the wedding, so be it. The guest ratio from my wife's side to my side was 10:1. My jobs were to show up (the easy part) and not losing patience, punching out the photographer and leaving (the hard part). Fair enough to only have to do this once. I paid for her ring, she paid for mine, the honeymoon costs were paid jointly between us.
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Dallas69
Other than getting to be the center of attention for a few hours,what are the benefits of a big wedding?
It has nothing to do with love.
Ask a bride...
Where did they get those expectations ?
(not from being pig/bonobo hybrids, or from a bloke on a cloud with a lightning bolt and cherubs)...social conditioning...
Originally Posted By: Dallas69
Other than getting to be the center of attention for a few hours,what are the benefits of a big wedding?
It has nothing to do with love.
Ask a bride...
Where did they get those expectations ?
(not from being pig/bonobo hybrids, or from a bloke on a cloud with a lightning bolt and cherubs)...social conditioning...
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
Not to mention the scam that is engagement rings... Luckily there are cheaper alternatives now.
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According to a recent survey by EBates, almost half of American men and women expect to spend between $1,000-$5,000 on an engagement ring, which happens to be just about the national average.
“The average cost of an engagement ring is $5,000, but you should spend what you can afford to spend,” Anne Chertoff, a trend expert at WeddingWire, told Forbes via email.
FORBES
5K sounds about right, but is still on the lower end of average. I would say that most folks who are financially established and truly ready to get married are probably in the high 4 digit range, at least from what I have seen.
Due to the age of my friends, I have been to a few weddings in the last 1-2 years and $25K will get you an "OK" wedding at a lower priced venue. At least where I am currently living.
Dang.
300 series stainless rings are good enough for us.
Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
Not to mention the scam that is engagement rings... Luckily there are cheaper alternatives now.
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According to a recent survey by EBates, almost half of American men and women expect to spend between $1,000-$5,000 on an engagement ring, which happens to be just about the national average.
“The average cost of an engagement ring is $5,000, but you should spend what you can afford to spend,” Anne Chertoff, a trend expert at WeddingWire, told Forbes via email.
FORBES
5K sounds about right, but is still on the lower end of average. I would say that most folks who are financially established and truly ready to get married are probably in the high 4 digit range, at least from what I have seen.
Due to the age of my friends, I have been to a few weddings in the last 1-2 years and $25K will get you an "OK" wedding at a lower priced venue. At least where I am currently living.
Dang.
300 series stainless rings are good enough for us.
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: hatt
In general they are dumb. Almost everyone would have been better off with a $5000 or less wedding and the extra cash to pay debt or use as a down payment or some other investment. Expensive rings are also dumb.
That's your opinion, even though you state it as fact...
Exactly which part do you disagree with?
You either are not married yourself, or you have no daughters, or you have daughters and you are trying to prepare them for you telling them no when it comes time for you to pay for their weddings...you people saying expensive weddings are stupid are only looking at it from your perspective. A lot of women dream about their weddings from the time they are a kid. It's a lifetime event for them, and to them, it's worth every penny spent. My wife thinks me buying myself a Corvette as a retirement gift to myself is stupid, so it's just a matter of perspective...
My wife tells me about those princesses at work all the time. "I deserve this much ring. I deserve that much wedding." Those women also tend to be the most unhappy and drama filled women there.
Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: hatt
In general they are dumb. Almost everyone would have been better off with a $5000 or less wedding and the extra cash to pay debt or use as a down payment or some other investment. Expensive rings are also dumb.
That's your opinion, even though you state it as fact...
Exactly which part do you disagree with?
You either are not married yourself, or you have no daughters, or you have daughters and you are trying to prepare them for you telling them no when it comes time for you to pay for their weddings...you people saying expensive weddings are stupid are only looking at it from your perspective. A lot of women dream about their weddings from the time they are a kid. It's a lifetime event for them, and to them, it's worth every penny spent. My wife thinks me buying myself a Corvette as a retirement gift to myself is stupid, so it's just a matter of perspective...
My wife tells me about those princesses at work all the time. "I deserve this much ring. I deserve that much wedding." Those women also tend to be the most unhappy and drama filled women there.
Originally Posted By: Nyogtha
For me it was a major social event for my mother-in-law, with her only child getting married. They insisted on paying for the wedding, so be it. The guest ratio from my wife's side to my side was 10:1. My jobs were to show up (the easy part) and not losing patience, punching out the photographer and leaving (the hard part). Fair enough to only have to do this once. I paid for her ring, she paid for mine, the honeymoon costs were paid jointly between us.
Ours was pretty good/Pro.
The DJ, well lucky is 15 years ago..... But it sucked to be the guy that knew how to be a good DJ and watch that guy butchering the playlists and have no idea how to please the guests....
We did everything by ourselfs:
-find banquet hall/venue
-find balloons/nice arrangements lady
-got the rings (special order from a Turkish jewelery)
-got the wine (from a winery), booze, fruits and the country chickens for the soup to have taste/flavor
-got the cake(never got to taste it; but hey it didn't end up as a face mask)
-new clothes/bride dress/shoes
-got the photograph/video
-got the dj(grrr long story)
-got transport aligned
-got the church aligned (my step-dad and my godfather work me behind my back and ended up with 4 priests ceremony)
We paid the venue from the money from the wedding, but had the money already lined-up/set aside.
P.S. I managed with my super nerdy ninja skills to avoid getting cake as a makeup both for me and my bride
For me it was a major social event for my mother-in-law, with her only child getting married. They insisted on paying for the wedding, so be it. The guest ratio from my wife's side to my side was 10:1. My jobs were to show up (the easy part) and not losing patience, punching out the photographer and leaving (the hard part). Fair enough to only have to do this once. I paid for her ring, she paid for mine, the honeymoon costs were paid jointly between us.
Ours was pretty good/Pro.
The DJ, well lucky is 15 years ago..... But it sucked to be the guy that knew how to be a good DJ and watch that guy butchering the playlists and have no idea how to please the guests....
We did everything by ourselfs:
-find banquet hall/venue
-find balloons/nice arrangements lady
-got the rings (special order from a Turkish jewelery)
-got the wine (from a winery), booze, fruits and the country chickens for the soup to have taste/flavor
-got the cake(never got to taste it; but hey it didn't end up as a face mask)
-new clothes/bride dress/shoes
-got the photograph/video
-got the dj(grrr long story)
-got transport aligned
-got the church aligned (my step-dad and my godfather work me behind my back and ended up with 4 priests ceremony)
We paid the venue from the money from the wedding, but had the money already lined-up/set aside.
P.S. I managed with my super nerdy ninja skills to avoid getting cake as a makeup both for me and my bride
Originally Posted By: hatt
My wife tells me about those princesses at work all the time. "I deserve this much ring. I deserve that much wedding." Those women also tend to be the most unhappy and drama filled women there.
Sort of a huge generalization. I can think of a few women who might say they deserve it. I don't think that necessarily means they are unhappy.
My wife tells me about those princesses at work all the time. "I deserve this much ring. I deserve that much wedding." Those women also tend to be the most unhappy and drama filled women there.
Sort of a huge generalization. I can think of a few women who might say they deserve it. I don't think that necessarily means they are unhappy.
Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: hatt
My wife tells me about those princesses at work all the time. "I deserve this much ring. I deserve that much wedding." Those women also tend to be the most unhappy and drama filled women there.
Sort of a huge generalization. I can think of a few women who might say they deserve it. I don't think that necessarily means they are unhappy.
People in their early/mid 20s that think they deserve stuff are going to tend to be unhappy. No one is going to give them everything they deserve.
Originally Posted By: hatt
My wife tells me about those princesses at work all the time. "I deserve this much ring. I deserve that much wedding." Those women also tend to be the most unhappy and drama filled women there.
Sort of a huge generalization. I can think of a few women who might say they deserve it. I don't think that necessarily means they are unhappy.
People in their early/mid 20s that think they deserve stuff are going to tend to be unhappy. No one is going to give them everything they deserve.
Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: hatt
My wife tells me about those princesses at work all the time. "I deserve this much ring. I deserve that much wedding." Those women also tend to be the most unhappy and drama filled women there.
Sort of a huge generalization. I can think of a few women who might say they deserve it. I don't think that necessarily means they are unhappy.
People in their early/mid 20s that think they deserve stuff are going to tend to be unhappy. No one is going to give them everything they deserve.
I tend to get turned off by the people that want gifts, gifts and more gifts. Not sure if this is related to anything above; just making a comment. Bridal shower, bridal showerII, wedding, married 6 months party etc.
Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: hatt
My wife tells me about those princesses at work all the time. "I deserve this much ring. I deserve that much wedding." Those women also tend to be the most unhappy and drama filled women there.
Sort of a huge generalization. I can think of a few women who might say they deserve it. I don't think that necessarily means they are unhappy.
People in their early/mid 20s that think they deserve stuff are going to tend to be unhappy. No one is going to give them everything they deserve.
I tend to get turned off by the people that want gifts, gifts and more gifts. Not sure if this is related to anything above; just making a comment. Bridal shower, bridal showerII, wedding, married 6 months party etc.
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Shotgun wedding on the steps of court house is better.
That's exactly what my wife and I did 27 yrs ago in Colville, Wa. We were the judges last client before he retired. We never bought any rings either since neither of can wear them.
Shotgun wedding on the steps of court house is better.
That's exactly what my wife and I did 27 yrs ago in Colville, Wa. We were the judges last client before he retired. We never bought any rings either since neither of can wear them.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Dallas69
Other than getting to be the center of attention for a few hours,what are the benefits of a big wedding?
It has nothing to do with love.
Ask a bride...
Where did they get those expectations ?
(not from being pig/bonobo hybrids, or from a bloke on a cloud with a lightning bolt and cherubs)...social conditioning...
Of course no one ever has any wants or desires unless it's programmed into them...give it a rest...
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Dallas69
Other than getting to be the center of attention for a few hours,what are the benefits of a big wedding?
It has nothing to do with love.
Ask a bride...
Where did they get those expectations ?
(not from being pig/bonobo hybrids, or from a bloke on a cloud with a lightning bolt and cherubs)...social conditioning...
Of course no one ever has any wants or desires unless it's programmed into them...give it a rest...
Originally Posted By: hatt
My wife tells me about those princesses at work all the time. "I deserve this much ring. I deserve that much wedding." Those women also tend to be the most unhappy and drama filled women there.
That's funny. Neither of my daughters expected anything. They greatly appreciated what my wife and I did for them. We WANTED to do it for them because we only live once, and we want to give our kids as much as we can. We are not rich, but we don't do without either. We love giving our daughters anything we can that may contribute to their happiness. Guess what, we spoil our grand daughter too, and we will spoil all of our grand kids. I don't care how stupid people think it is, we will continue to spoil our kids until we kick the bucket...it not only makes them happy, it makes us happy too...maybe you should try being more giving, you might like it...
My wife tells me about those princesses at work all the time. "I deserve this much ring. I deserve that much wedding." Those women also tend to be the most unhappy and drama filled women there.
That's funny. Neither of my daughters expected anything. They greatly appreciated what my wife and I did for them. We WANTED to do it for them because we only live once, and we want to give our kids as much as we can. We are not rich, but we don't do without either. We love giving our daughters anything we can that may contribute to their happiness. Guess what, we spoil our grand daughter too, and we will spoil all of our grand kids. I don't care how stupid people think it is, we will continue to spoil our kids until we kick the bucket...it not only makes them happy, it makes us happy too...maybe you should try being more giving, you might like it...
Originally Posted By: Dallas69
I still have not heard any benefits of a huge wedding.
I guess there aren't any.
Would the fairy dress and prince charming, in front of the loving parents mean exactly the same as same dress, same prince charming, and same loving parents, and having 200 people in the audience ?
If not, then WHY NOT ???
I still have not heard any benefits of a huge wedding.
I guess there aren't any.
Would the fairy dress and prince charming, in front of the loving parents mean exactly the same as same dress, same prince charming, and same loving parents, and having 200 people in the audience ?
If not, then WHY NOT ???
It cost almost nothing to get married in America, it only cost as much as someone wants to spend, in many cases its plain retarded how young people can spend up to what would have been a downpayment on a house, only to show off to friends their wedding day, which last hours vs a lifetime for a home.
Its all about marketing, marketing and marketing and showing off to friends, which as a people we all do.
A big wedding nothing to do with true love, in fact its quite phony..as far as I am concerned.
With that said, you can truly have a nice wedding if you wish, in a really, really, nice place, if you do it smart but as a people, the catering halls all know we want to impress people and they know how to charge for it.
I have more respect for a young couple, a church altar, and whatever gathering they feel is reasonable afterwards vs something they go into debt for no good reason other then show off.
Its all about marketing, marketing and marketing and showing off to friends, which as a people we all do.
A big wedding nothing to do with true love, in fact its quite phony..as far as I am concerned.
With that said, you can truly have a nice wedding if you wish, in a really, really, nice place, if you do it smart but as a people, the catering halls all know we want to impress people and they know how to charge for it.
I have more respect for a young couple, a church altar, and whatever gathering they feel is reasonable afterwards vs something they go into debt for no good reason other then show off.
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