I caught two boys stealing mail

[Skippy722]

I realize this does not directly address the OP's subject but since OP and others mentioned cameras, I suppose it is ok to veer off the "mail boxes" theft? I am happy to hear thieves were at least caught and turned in to authorities. It is a shame they likely will get off easy.

What cameras do most of you guys use around the outside of the house? I been trying to decide what to do. Buy my own or go with the security cameras our alarm folks offer (of course with monthly charges).

I’m using a Lorex NVR system that records 24/7 and stores almost a little over 2 weeks of 4k footage. No monthly fee, no “camera must not have detected it”, it’s just there on top of my fridge. The only issue is they are IP cameras so I had to run Ethernet for them, but it comes with 100ft per camera.

 

[ripcord]

Let me tell you something else about church. I realized the other day that many of today’s kids potentially have very little access to exposure to successful, normal adults. The depiction of adults that they see are on their phones (which we know is often the worst example) or their whacked out parent. Church, if nothing else, showed kids what grown people are supposed to look like and act like. Declines in Boy Scouts, etc are also removed sources of good adult examples.

Absolutely. Kids usually can't raise themselves into mature, successful adults and social media is a poor substitute for active, involved parenting. As you've noticed, community group involvement is largely a thing of the past. Few people are involved in granges, scouting, civic groups like Lions or Rotary, etc, too. Besides, kids today don't have the attention span for that kind of thing.

 

[SammyChevelleTypeS3]

I’m using a Lorex NVR system that records 24/7 and stores almost a little over 2 weeks of 4k footage. No monthly fee, no “camera must not have detected it”, it’s just there on top of my fridge. The only issue is they are IP cameras so I had to run Ethernet for them, but it comes with 100ft per camera.

Thanks, will look into those.

 

[Rmay635703]

Going back to textbooks is going backwards. If kids are not totally fluent in computer use, we cede the future to China. Plus, textbooks are expensive and are quickly outdated.

There is a lot of evidence that kids (the younger the worse) neither learn or retain information from “devices”

Devices tend to overstimulate leading to shadow adhd.

Our crisis of increasing levels of illiteracy tracks kids getting a nanny device too early in life.

Old fashioned printed paper allows kids to develop a deeper attachment to the material. Best to keep kids away from portable smartphones until mid to late teens.
Due to how they are used ye olde fashioned desktop computers and consoles are less damaging to young kids and are much better at teaching typing skills and coding if that is your flex.

People never like to hear the reality but the last 15 years of learning trends have been bad news for many children especially certain boys who don’t learn from tablets.

If we want 40% of children to be left behind, keep on with current trends, otherwise more diverse and tactile learning including books is more effective.

Books being ridiculous is a manmade problem , my school the math books were 40 years old, I still tested out of calculus in college entrance despite never taking it.

 

[Skippy722]

Thanks, will look into those.

They’re pricey, my system was ~$600. But it came with 4 4k cameras, the NVR itself, with a 2Tb HDD installed which is upgradable. It also has an app so you can access them and the recordings at anytime.

I’ll PM you some screenshots from them so you can see the camera quality.

 

[SammyChevelleTypeS3]

They’re pricey, my system was ~$600. But it came with 4 4k cameras, the NVR itself, with a 2Tb HDD installed which is upgradable. It also has an app so you can access them and the recordings at anytime.

I’ll PM you some screenshots from them so you can see the camera quality.

Thanks. I am going to look for the screenshots now.

 

[D60]

And another thing - teach your kids to look people in the eye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scott

And a firm handshake. Every time a guy gives me a limp handshake it just screams "pansy" (which my wife says is a misnomer because pansies are actually quite hardy)

 

[Pablo]

And a firm handshake. Every time a guy gives me a limp handshake it just screams "pansy" (which my wife says is a misnomer because pansies are actually quite hardy)

NO! - Well that is only 1/2 of a good handshake - don't be that idiot macho brute who is trying to out firm a firm.

a) Grabs HARD before the other hand is in place. Being patient is part of life, you squeeze too soon and you proved you know nothing, firmness = fail at that point

b) Don't crush my wife's hand please.

Thanks!

 

[slo town]

And a firm handshake. Every time a guy gives me a limp handshake it just screams "pansy" (which my wife says is a misnomer because pansies are actually quite hardy)

NO! - Well that is only 1/2 of a good handshake - don't be that idiot macho brute who is trying to out firm a firm.

a) Grabs HARD before the other hand is in place. Being patient is part of life, you squeeze too soon and you proved you know nothing, firmness = fail at that point

b) Don't crush my wife's hand please.

Thanks!

Both you guys are right.

Scott

 

[D60]

Both you guys are right.

Scott

Except does anyone believe there's a woman who would tolerate Pablo?? JK!

In all seriousness I'm gonna guess that parents who teach things like looking others in the eye and firm handshakes are less likely on average to have delinquent children who do things like steal mail. Absolutely it's true even good kids sometimes make VERY bad choices, and either way these kids should see some substantial punishment because we tend to learn more from our mistakes.

 

[Pablo]

Except does anyone believe there's a woman who would tolerate Pablo?? JK!

In all seriousness I'm gonna guess that parents who teach things like looking others in the eye and firm handshakes are less likely on average to have delinquent children who do things like steal mail. Absolutely it's true even good kids sometimes make VERY bad choices, and either way these kids should see some substantial punishment because we tend to learn more from our mistakes.

This!

Upper middle class and above, plus lower income families who show they can and have moved up - teach their kids respect in and of themselves, others, and the rules. They teach money - they teach working for someone else can be a starting place, a learning place, but should not be a goal if one is striving for stability, comfort and some level of affluence.

America remains a place to succeed and these rules are not so hard but are not in many family tool bags

 

[slo town]

In all seriousness I'm gonna guess that parents who teach things like looking others in the eye and firm handshakes are less likely on average to have delinquent children who do things like steal mail.

Yes! I truly believe this.

Scott

 

[ripcord]

Just the presence of a semi stable father in the family plus a caring mother is probably enough for 90% of kids to turn out all right.

Kids don't require perfect parenting most of the time, but even perfect parents aren't enough some of the time.

 

[slo town]

Just the presence of a semi stable father in the family plus a caring mother is probably enough for 90% of kids to turn out all right.

Kids don't require perfect parenting most of the time, but even perfect parents aren't enough some of the time.

True on both counts.

Scott

 

[goblin]

And a firm handshake. Every time a guy gives me a limp handshake it just screams "pansy" (which my wife says is a misnomer because pansies are actually quite hardy)

Shook an Orthodox Jew's hand once years ago. The guy was half his wife's size, quite small, and this handshake I remembered for years (well, mostly because of the event, it was in the maternity ward). It felt like a feather died in my palm. Got me the same vibes you describe. Who on earth gives handshakes like that ?!?

It was only a couple of years ago that I learned somewhere that in their faith, a firm handshake is seen as aggressive and a no-no, because - sign of pride and assertiveness, which they are not supposed to be, because - pious and whatnot.
So - it's not always because they are pansies. Very specific case, it is true - their attire is specific enough to be unmistakable.