Auto trans inline filtration

Dave424 · Oct 6, 2007

I have an 07 Accord VP auto, and would like to add an inline filter because of known issues with these transmissions. I know about magnefine, but I am interested in Amsoil dual remote filter with bypass for max protection. I looked for info on Amsoil's site and they don't mention anything about using these filters as trans inline units. Is this possible? Will it restrict flow or cause other issues? Any help appreciated.

Donald · Oct 6, 2007

Would seem overkill to me (and a lot more expensive). Better off using that extra money to refresh the ATF more often.

Lost Pup · Oct 6, 2007

http://perma-cool.com/Catalog/Cat_page25.html

deepsquat · Oct 7, 2007

I don't know about using an amsoil for a tranny ...how about talking to Ralph wood and go with a motorguard??... I use a Frantz with a Frantz tranny adapter on mine ...( got it at a great price ) I do use a motorguard on my engine though .

bmwtechguy · Oct 7, 2007

Dave, I'm sure it has been tried before, but the dual remote is most likely not a good setup for a trans filter. I have heard of someone using the single bypass filter mount with the restrictor removed to increase flow. The main trouble I see using only an amsoil bypass filter is that you have no flow in the unlikely event that it gets clogged up. There is no "bypass" valve in those bypass filters. A safer bet if you are not willing to experiment with flow per minute times, is to get a kit like the one above, and then upgrade to an EaO filter after so many miles. Either that, or consult with Gary Allan here on BITOG for suggestions or guidance. Also you could read up on this topic and see several other options as well here: http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...1&fpart=all

unDummy · Oct 7, 2007

Using a dual-remote would be a great idea. For a transmission filter, it would last almost forever. You would have to have a catastrophic failure to fill a couple of big filters.
The Trasko on a permacool mount is another option.

Using a standard single flow bypass filter as a fullflow is foolish. You must plumb it as a bypass or risk serious flow reduction. Even without orifice metering, the media is too restrictive. This is one of the common issues with bypass filtration--- incorrect installation.

The permacool kit is a good choice. It allows the usage of any full flow filter 3/4" thread. And, those filters are cheap enough to replace at an interval.

ARB1977 · Oct 7, 2007

Ive got the permacool kit on my Tacoma between the factory cooler and after market cooler. Instead of using their filter i had very little clearence from were i mounted it and the frame so im using a moble one extended performance 209 filter along with a filter magnet from filtermag.com. I change the filter every year. Ive had the kit for the past three years and so far so good.

benjamming · Oct 7, 2007

Your 07 Accord should have a real serviceable filter unlike the 98-02 that only had the nonserviceable screen.

Lonnie · Oct 7, 2007

What's wrong with using the Magnefine? Try eBay for a price. You can get them at the Ford dealer with a Ford PN.

jeffgolem · Oct 24, 2007

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I have an 07 Accord VP auto, and would like to add an inline filter because of known issues with these transmissions. I know about magnefine, but I am interested in Amsoil dual remote filter with bypass for max protection. I looked for info on Amsoil's site and they don't mention anything about using these filters as trans inline units. Is this possible? Will it restrict flow or cause other issues? Any help appreciated.

Sorry this is so late, but I just saw this post now. All 2007 Honda's have a serviceable Trans Filter. Yours is very easy to get at. It is directly on top of the trans when you look down at it. It is small and black with rubber hosed in front and back of it. Here is the link to the part number: http://slhondaparts.com/browse.asp?Model...;ViewParts=true

Master ACiD · Oct 24, 2007

why bother with an inline filter when the trans already has one in the pan? most pan filters are of a reasonale quality. and most pans also have magnets to catch ferrous particles.
the only benefit i could see to an inline filter is if you removed the pan filter and magnet and just has a single inline filter and magnet. this way filter changes would be a snap. espically if the pan has a drain plug. then filter and fluid changes would be as easy as cngine the engine oil and filter.
but if you keep the pan filter/magnet AND install an inline filter/magnet, what are you going to accomplish other than create another point of possible failure? why filter the oil twice? do we even know all that much about these non servicable inline filters? one has to wonder if they have a bypass valve, and what presure setting it is set at. how efficent the filtering media is, what type of media, and how many square inches of media. i dont recall anyone ever cutting a typical inline filter apart. atleast theres not much talk about them.

unDummy · Oct 24, 2007

Pan filters are a joke. Many transmissions have nothing but screens(and some have tiny screens within the VB or transmission that can clog).
Magnets only filter magnetic particles.

Anyway to improve filtration will allow the fluid to last longer. This is a benefit for those that use boutique long lasting fluids.

Anyway to remove wear particles will improve the life of all components that need fluid for lubrication. Wornout valvebodies and seals seems to be more common then ever.

I've also seen transmission shift better with filtered ATF. This to me shows that factory filtration is a joke, and that suspended particles can affect clutch/band lockup.

Points of failures are already built into the transmission. IMO, adding an inline full flow or bypass filter eliminates more points of failures then it creates.

All the inline filters, like the Magnefine, have bypasses. Read their literature. I've seen them cut apart even if noone has posted pictures. They're small pleated filters and some have a additonal magnets. Wix, Transdapt.... make these inline filters. And, certain automakers require ones to be added after a warranty rebuild. What does that say about inline filtration and OE filtration?
All 'ph8a' filters used by the 'other brands' rely on the bypass built into the oil filter. These filters are also pretty cheap enough to replace regularly eliminating and clogged filter issues.

Why not question the factory filtration? micron rating of factory filtration? effectiveness of factory filtration? OE filtration is where there is nothing to talk about!!!!

BuickGN · Oct 24, 2007

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Pan filters are a joke. Many transmissions have nothing but screens(and some have tiny screens within the VB or transmission that can clog).
Magnets only filter magnetic particles.

I've decided to go this route. I'm up in the air on the bypass vs inline filters. I don't want to take my TL far from stock looking in case I decide to sell it so I'm leaning toward inline.

What I can't find info on is are the Magnafine filters just a bunch of magnets that the fluid passes over or is it an actual filter plus magnets? Also having trouble finding one that's only for 3/8" line and not for 5/16 AND 3/8" line.

Anyway to improve filtration will allow the fluid to last longer. This is a benefit for those that use boutique long lasting fluids.

Anyway to remove wear particles will improve the life of all components that need fluid for lubrication. Wornout valvebodies and seals seems to be more common then ever.

I've also seen transmission shift better with filtered ATF. This to me shows that factory filtration is a joke, and that suspended particles can affect clutch/band lockup.

Points of failures are already built into the transmission. IMO, adding an inline full flow or bypass filter eliminates more points of failures then it creates.

All the inline filters, like the Magnefine, have bypasses. Read their literature. I've seen them cut apart even if noone has posted pictures. They're small pleated filters and some have a additonal magnets. Wix, Transdapt.... make these inline filters. And, certain automakers require ones to be added after a warranty rebuild. What does that say about inline filtration and OE filtration?
All 'ph8a' filters used by the 'other brands' rely on the bypass built into the oil filter. These filters are also pretty cheap enough to replace regularly eliminating and clogged filter issues.

Why not question the factory filtration? micron rating of factory filtration? effectiveness of factory filtration? OE filtration is where there is nothing to talk about!!!!

Master ACiD · Oct 24, 2007

i dont know what transmissions use screens but all of my transmission use what appear to be high quality depth type filters with lots of surface area and an element thick enough that i cant see through it.
can you elaborate on these screens. what are they like coarse window screen or some super tight mesh of stainless or what.

The Critic · Oct 24, 2007

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I have an 07 Accord VP auto, and would like to add an inline filter because of known issues

There aren't any issues with these transmissions. The 5-speed autos that are mated to the 4-cyl engines are near bulletproof.It's the six cylinder ones that have been troublesome.

oilboy123 · Oct 24, 2007

You can get the Magnifines for about $17. Cheap insurance.

I have seen mesh screens of brass material I believe? Not very often anymore. Those were mostly on Ford C-4 tranmissions.

BuickGN · Oct 24, 2007

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Pan filters are a joke. Many transmissions have nothing but screens(and some have tiny screens within the VB or transmission that can clog).
Magnets only filter magnetic particles.
Anyway to improve filtration will allow the fluid to last longer. This is a benefit for those that use boutique long lasting fluids.

Anyway to remove wear particles will improve the life of all components that need fluid for lubrication. Wornout valvebodies and seals seems to be more common then ever.

I've also seen transmission shift better with filtered ATF. This to me shows that factory filtration is a joke, and that suspended particles can affect clutch/band lockup.

Points of failures are already built into the transmission. IMO, adding an inline full flow or bypass filter eliminates more points of failures then it creates.

All the inline filters, like the Magnefine, have bypasses. Read their literature. I've seen them cut apart even if noone has posted pictures. They're small pleated filters and some have a additonal magnets. Wix, Transdapt.... make these inline filters. And, certain automakers require ones to be added after a warranty rebuild. What does that say about inline filtration and OE filtration?
All 'ph8a' filters used by the 'other brands' rely on the bypass built into the oil filter. These filters are also pretty cheap enough to replace regularly eliminating and clogged filter issues.

Why not question the factory filtration? micron rating of factory filtration? effectiveness of factory filtration? OE filtration is where there is nothing to talk about!!!!

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I've decided to go this route. I'm up in the air on the bypass vs inline filters. I don't want to take my TL far from stock looking in case I decide to sell it so I'm leaning toward inline. The only thing that scares me is I can't find a filter for just 3/8" hoses. They're all for both 3/8 and 5/16. Don't want to cause a restriction.

handyman · Oct 25, 2007

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Pan filters are a joke. Many transmissions have nothing but screens(and some have tiny screens within the VB or transmission that can clog).
Magnets only filter magnetic particles.
Anyway to improve filtration will allow the fluid to last longer. This is a benefit for those that use boutique long lasting fluids.

Anyway to remove wear particles will improve the life of all components that need fluid for lubrication. Wornout valvebodies and seals seems to be more common then ever.

I've also seen transmission shift better with filtered ATF. This to me shows that factory filtration is a joke, and that suspended particles can affect clutch/band lockup.

Points of failures are already built into the transmission. IMO, adding an inline full flow or bypass filter eliminates more points of failures then it creates.

All the inline filters, like the Magnefine, have bypasses. Read their literature. I've seen them cut apart even if noone has posted pictures. They're small pleated filters and some have a additonal magnets. Wix, Transdapt.... make these inline filters. And, certain automakers require ones to be added after a warranty rebuild. What does that say about inline filtration and OE filtration?
All 'ph8a' filters used by the 'other brands' rely on the bypass built into the oil filter. These filters are also pretty cheap enough to replace regularly eliminating and clogged filter issues.

Why not question the factory filtration? micron rating of factory filtration? effectiveness of factory filtration? OE filtration is where there is nothing to talk about!!!!

Click to expand...

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I've decided to go this route. I'm up in the air on the bypass vs inline filters. I don't want to take my TL far from stock looking in case I decide to sell it so I'm leaning toward inline. The only thing that scares me is I can't find a filter for just 3/8" hoses. They're all for both 3/8 and 5/16. Don't want to cause a restriction.

Magnefines comes in 3/8. I think that they are built for transmissions. I've been installing them on my power steering units and those are 3/8 lines.

deepsquat · Oct 25, 2007

you can use a bypass with this frantz adapter ( or build your own) taps into one line ( just cut it) place inbetween cuts , add a line to and from the filter ( to the top of the adapter ) clamp them and you are done about a 20 minute install on my Nissan ( that has just a screen) [image] http://www.wefilterit.com/orders/600/images/613.jpg[/image]

deepsquat · Oct 25, 2007

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