Originally Posted By: SirTanon
Originally Posted By: 93cruiser
I said it is a less robust oil compared to a name brand such as mobil 1, and for the cost savings which is basically nothing, I don't understand why anyone would choose to run an oil such as supertech. Read and repeat this sentence if not understood.
also.. you said:
Originally Posted By: 93cruiser
and for the cost savings which is basically nothing
Let's go back to your initial post in this thread, where you said:
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Example, walmart supertech synthetic 5qt, 15.68.
Mobil 1 sythetic 5qt, 23.97
Price difference =8.29, or 1.65 a quart
For someone who drives a lot, has multiple cars, etc.. that $8.29 savings adds up. Let's also consider that the $8.29 difference is actually OVER 1/3 of the full price of the Mobil 1 (34.585%.. and over 50% of the Supertech synthetic. That's not an insignificant savings.
That's like going to buy gasoline at a station that charges $2.89 per gallon, and just tossing away an extra $1 for each gallon you pump... same percentage - 34.585%. I don't know about you, but nobody I know would do that.
In my case, I drive roughly 30,000 miles per year in my Fusion, which equates to 4x OCI @ 7,500 miles per OCI. That same $8.29 savings you list, times 4, works out to $33.16... Maybe not much, but also not insignificant. With that, I could buy:
- 2 more jugs of Supertech
- Three tickets to a movie (I'm going to see Avengers:Infinity War soon, and that would cover it)
- Lunch at work for a week
- A case of cheap beer
- 12 bottles of good beer
- 2 bottles of good wine
- 4 nice big ribeye steaks
etc.. you get the picture. Do you honestly consider that $33.16 "basically nothing"? If so, let me give you my post office box address, and you can send me a check for that.
.. and the bottom line is, my car will run just as well all year, and still be in as good shape, after that 30,000 miles on Supertech, as it would have been on Mobil 1. I defy you to prove otherwise.
Proselytize all you want.. the point you're trying to make has been flawed from the get-go. If all you really wanted to say was:
"Hey everyone, I think that, for me, there's no value in buying anything less than a top-end oil like Mobil-1, and I would never go with a cheaper oil just to save money because I think it's not worth it. Who here is with me?"
... then that's fine. But you haven't been... you've been trying to tell us that we're all wrong for believing otherwise, and we're not buying it.
Now, so far, I've made multiple posts in this thread providing counter-arguments to things you've said, but despite the fact that you've responded to others, you haven't responded to me...
- You haven't responded to my post debunking your "Name brand is better because" higher TBN, etc.. argument:
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- You haven't responded to my post debunking your "The average user is better off with Mobil1" argument:
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..so I don't expect you to respond to this post either. Perhaps you just can't counter these points.. But honestly, I'd like to see you try to counter them using logical argument and quantifiable facts, if you can.
I certainly did not mean to not reply, but will now. I will try to address in order.
So 33.16 saved in one year. Or roughly .09 a day, nine cents. Now be honest here, do you really think you are going to see/notice the difference at the end of the year in your bank account? I doubt it, and this is why I don't see an advantage to running supertech. I think the advantage goes towards SPENDING the extra 33.16 per year on your vehicle. Both will work, but for 33.16 a year more in your case you could have the best offered vs the good offering. Vehicles are expensive, thousands of dollars. Why not just flip the dime per day and get a better product.
Yes, a better product. Walmart is not doing research and analysis on oil, but Mobil is. I can't prove it, but if we had numbers on test results I think you would see Mobil performs better in testing than supertech. Meeting a spec is one thing, exceeding the spec is another. Why not exceed for .09 a day? Just asking.
In my original post I thought I asked for a discussion as to why run a cheaper oil when the savings are not significant. I don't think I have ever said anyone was wrong to run it, just that it seems crazy to me.
Also, me sending you 33 bucks vs spending an extra 33 bucks a year on my car is not the same. I gain nothing by sending you 33, but I do not buying supertech.
I defy you to prove your car is in just as good as shape running supertech, you can't. Why can you make that statement if I can't say logically mobil 1 protects better, or in better shape? You can't talk out of both sides of your mouth.
I will go read the other posts later.
Enjoy the night everyone
