Wow, the city let them build that right in a residential area. I see no other industrial in Google Maps.
It is super common. I could come up with a dozen other examples. And if you can’t see it, you can smell or hear it.
Are you for or against Data Centers?
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It is super common. I could come up with a dozen other examples. And if you can’t see it, you can smell or hear it.
I think in certain areas of US with its vast empty land away from people they make sense and boost to local economy.
In my state nope however we don’t have vast expanses of nothing and energy is inexpensive
In my state nope however we don’t have vast expanses of nothing and energy is inexpensive
That $20-$30 plan is probably in a datacenter in your backyard or someone else's backyard.
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Exactly.
My opinion may not be accurate but this is likely how things unfold: the entire world has printed so much money we have to inflate our way out of this with either a big crash, a hyper inflation, or a hyper growth in GDP. The obvious least painful way to do it is the hypergrowth in GDP.
How will we get a hypergrowth in GDP without hyper inflation would likely be AI. It has the ability to produce a lot of work if done right (not generating dumb low quality video but reduce cost to create real work, like how Palentir and Claude produced) despite using a lot of electricity. Investors currently dump a lot of money into it because everything else is too expensive (in PE) and the only way to go is to borrow the still cheap enough money and invest in something new that will likely keep up with growth and inflation against money supply.
So that's how we have a perfect storm where everyone is making the same money, things cost the same, so inflation number is the same, but as a share of the world's GDP we are all diminished and AI have taken a bigger share of the GDP, to balance out the debt we as a civilization has borrowed against. I see this as how gold more than double yet our food price only went up 20-30% in the past 2 years.
We will likely continue to see high energy price due to all sorts of reason (if you cancel out noise from like disruption from Iran and Ukraine), but our future usage would likely reduce per person due to efficiency improvement (small hybrid car, condensing furnace, mini split heat pump, work from home, etc). Raising kids would be more and more expensive and population would start to decline because you now have to subsidize your kids to 26 instead of 18, and maybe in 20 years you have to subsidize your grand children to 26 as well.
Welcome to Japan.
For most, it's Not in My Backyard .... it's not: Not in Someone Else's Backyard
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It’s a strain in a multifaceted manner - boss’s brother is a manager at CAT - said they are super aggressive - we are first and will pay to stay (first). He finally told them we have decades old clients that still matter - and are very stable.
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About the VA data center regions. Most of the big customers to that particular area is Federal gov. In AWS they are called Gov Cloud back then.Wow, the city let them build that right in a residential area. I see no other industrial in Google Maps.
Yeah for security reason the goverment want to only share data center with their own department instead of with the civilian world. Yes gov can build their own data center as well but they typically rent from the hyperscale guys as they are more efficient and can leverage existing know how from the civilian world.
If you live there and work for the Federal gov, and you start rallying against the gov data center, it may cause you some career problem.
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We went from yelling at the clouds to about the clouds 
Right, I could have phrased that better...
The problem is - they don't specialize in that, and they usually lack the people/salaries/skillsets to do it the right way. Then uptime suffers. Then when it comes time to revamp the power, UPSs, or cooling, they don't want to have that expense. The colo facilities do data centers, and data center operations, better than any government agency.
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I have this shirt lol, I don't think anyone has actually bothered to read it. But I think it's funny so that's good enough.We went from yelling at the clouds to about the clouds
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My parents are in landlording and some of their properties are bordering industrial zones. The homes there are always lower priced compare to the more legacy highly demanded area where the wealthy people live. There is no way around it, it is human nature. Unless you mandate things the communist way and even then you will still see the special people living in fancier and nicer homes.
Most people understand where they are buying and renting if things have been there for a long time. The problem though is when it is all New Zone they are buying from and they don't know who the farm will sell their next lot to.
Buying home needs some experience. Most non investors have no idea which one is more valuable by how much and what potential risk they have to deal with if things go wrong.
Certain lots are more and less desirable for a reason and often times wives fall in love with a feature in a house and disregard these undesirable traits on the lots.
That "data center" could be something else on that backyard fence, like an 8 lane highway, a train track, a football stadium, or a haunted house, cemetetry, a prison, etc.
In our area we have new apartments build right next to a prison so the competing government (fed / state / county) can't expand that prison further.
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Oh geez - Clear Insights just hit me up with a data center survey. Clear Insider is more like it …
It’s been happening since the 50s and you guys called it being part of a “global economy”.
We practically gave away the Chinese all of the tech they have now. I find it ironic that you guys drew the line on AI and datacenters.
