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I'm not interested in "stories" you have to tell. Give me your first-hand experiences of filters that have failed. I gave mine and now I wait for yours. Perhaps 20yrs is nothing to you but that isn't the issue. What other brands have you seen fail and cause extensive damage? That is the question.
As far as the drinks that are in your toolbox that are twice as old as 20yrs; that says nothing for you other than you are a nasty,unorganized slob of a mechanic. Clean the pigsty up before you expect customers to bring their nice cars to you.
You post has offered nothing but a feeble attempt to change the subject of Fram's quality.
First of all, you need to learn to read. Go back and read my post again! I didn't say "drinks" in my toolbox, I said DINKS! You know, little dents from the wear and tear of being used multiple times over MANY decades! Maybe you are the one that had one too many!
I used to work for a tow company that also had a repair shop. I've seen an engine with 30K on it being replaced when the filter collapsed. Care to guess what filter it was? No it wasn't Fram. It was Purolator.
One time a customer brought in a car because it was making "funny noises". It had virtually no oil pressure. Took the oil filter off, cut it open and to no ones surprise it had collapsed. Filter brand? Napa. That engine did not get replaced - only because the customer had decided to trade it in. She decided it would be less headaches getting a newer car than fighting with a large company to replace her engine.
Have you personally ever used a Fram? Judging by your remarks I'd say no. So all you have is hear say. I have used them for many HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of miles. Over the last 55 years I've had a lot of vehicles! On many of the vehicles I used an orange Fram filter and had (or have) 200 -300K or more miles. But you call that luck! Literally millions of miles using a filter you say is junk.
Do a search on this very forum and see the problems people have had with various filters. A while back someone had problems with AC Delco filters. If you eliminate all the brands people have had problems with what is left?
Once again - you mention 3 engines. Answer my question - How many millions of Frams are sold every year? How about over the last 20 years? 3 out of hundreds of millions of filters?!
I'm not saying you and everyone else should rush out and buy a case of the orange cans. As mentioned before there are much better deals out there, and frankly I have had problems with the orange Frams and startup noise with a couple of my Fords.
But to say the filters are a POS because 3 filters were bad is just wrong!
. After time I was able to purchase Fram oil filters and did so. I looked at them as a big step forward. Used them faithfully. After I got my 1989 F-150 and 1996 Contour I started noticing that I was experiencing loud start up noises on both vehicles. I thought it was the oil and went from dino to Mobil 1 in the hopes of better cold start up flow. The noise was still there on both vehicles. I finally "broke" down and went back to the Motorcraft recommended oil filters and the start up noise TOTALLY disappeared
. I'm not saying that Fram oil filters will destroy your engine but in my two cases that start up noise from lack of oil can't be good for the wear on the engine. And now the Motorcraft filters are less expensive than even the Fram's in the orange can
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