anyone used excelerated oil 10-30% better mileage!

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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
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Excelerated Oil works by using a combination of hydrodynamics and thermodynamics.


Whooopeee! As are all oils.

He forgot superimportant and impressive words such as elastohydrodynamic, Lipophillic, Ratio of Specific Heats, heterogeneous and homogeneous, etc,
Mola, those are mighty fancy words you used.
 
Originally Posted By: fsskier
Wow, this is great, even better than cow magnets on your fuel lines!!

Surely, Car and Driver, Road and Track, Mechanics illustrated, Hot Rod magazine, Green Car congress, etc have full length articles, tests and results, on this miracle oil!!!

OOOPS, they do not!!!
I would be extremely skeptical that a miracle this big would go unnoticed by the automotive press, which searches desperately each month for newsworthy articles.

Did anyone else note the savings column notes that most of us are spending $4,000 for oil changes every 30,000 miles?? Since I change my Mobil 1 every 25K, my costs are closer to $40, for that distance.

Seems to me then you need to catch up on your oil changes!!!
 
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Whooopeee! As are all oils.

He forgot superimportant and impressive words such as elastohydrodynamic, Lipophillic, Ratio of Specific Heats, heterogeneous and homogeneous, etc,

Mola, those are mighty fancy words you used.

Actually, anybody can do it. Just pick up a textbook on lubrication, start mixing words,... and voila!, you have the marketing part of your snake oil product done.
 
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
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If some small blender could develop such a chemistry, they'd sell it for how many millions of dollars to an XOM or BP or SOPUS, who would then use it to wipe the shelves and the bulk tanks clean of every other company's products.


I don't think this would occur. Major blenders are like the BIG 3. They bat the same crowd back and forth between each other in a managed fixed market (it may expand ..but). There's a given amount of raw material available that has to go somewhere and they have a considerable investment in giving it a place to go.

That is, even if technologically feasible, I don't see any revolutions taking place. Evolutions, surely. We're in the middle of them now. If portals were invented tomorrow, they wouldn't displace the massive transportation market overnight even if you could make enough of them in a day. The shock to the downstream economics would be too hard to handle.


I suspect that the development of such chemistry would be a paradigm shift, not merely business as usual.
These companies are happy with the existing oligopoly, since that is the best they can hope for.
They are still poised to jump if they can, though.
If any company could utterly devestate everyone else in the motor oil market, they wouldn't hesitate to do so.
The quantities of raw materials available today, and I believe that you refer to fuel feedstocks in this context, are of no consequence, since the market would easily absorb them with no more than normal growth in demand.
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Whooopeee! As are all oils.

He forgot superimportant and impressive words such as elastohydrodynamic, Lipophillic, Ratio of Specific Heats, heterogeneous and homogeneous, etc,

Mola, those are mighty fancy words you used.

Actually, anybody can do it. Just pick up a textbook on lubrication, start mixing words,... and voila!, you have the marketing part of your snake oil product done.
'Cept Mola knows what they mean.
 
Well, out of curiosity I emailed both the manufacture and that outfit in Denver acting like a stupid consumer eager to find out more. Guess what, not one reply from any of them. I am not surprised in the least. What stupid claims they make.
 
Miro?

When you crunch the numbers on the physics and thermodynamics of stop-n-go driving, it's a joke to think any lube will save 20-30% fuel. Cut friction to zero, and you still have Carnot's thermal efficiency, aerodynamics, rolling resistance and braking to overcome.

BZZT.

It simply trades on people's suspicions of oil companies.

H&SS major, this is right up my alley.
 
i was wondering if anyone has the balls to call the first testimonial and ask how the oil works.

"We have been doing business in Denver for over 100 years. In that time myself and my family have been exposed to an awful lot of "new products." When John and Dan came to us from Excelerated Oil and explained all the advantages of their product we were extremely skeptical. They patiently told us about the oil and we have been using it for over 7 months, since February 2009. Tony Capra plumbing covers the Front Range of Colorado and we put an awful lot of miles on our vehicles, both vans and trucks. Immediately the drivers noticed increased horsepower and smoother running engines. The "starts" were also smoother and quicker. The real rubber meets the road deal is the increased gas mileage. We are experiencing close to 28% fleet wide in savings on our gas purchases. With 53 vehicles that is a tremendous savings. Also, the mobile part of the process lets us concentrate on doing business and we have experienced absolutely no down time in the last 7 months. We would highly recommend Excelerated Oil in anythiing that has an engine."
-Tony Capra Jr. and Carlo Capra, Owners Tony Capra Plumbing & Heating CO. Denver, CO
2235 Arapahoe Street
Denver, CO 80205-2512
(303) 296-1966
 
Wow you'd think after centuries of snake oil salesmen peddling such hokem that people would finally learn...I guess not....they WANT to believe these irrational claims.
 
The company in the testimonial and its location are correct, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the product does what the testimonial claims.
 
This statement from their site got me as well....

*Should you prefer to perform you own vehicle maintenance, Excelerated Oil also sells in bulk, from a 55 gallon drum to a 20,000 gallon rail car.

That rules out the little guy changing his own oil in his driveway. No quarts to be had despite the picture of one on their main page.

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If I were a rich man I would allow them to put this snake oil in a cheap beater just so I could drain it for a VOA and UOA after some miles.
 
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