Anyone in here have a bike that still has carbs?

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#1, it was common enough in the 1980s that GM specifically stated in their owner's manuals (and issued a TSB) allowing it's use..

#2, the OP's bike is 1998 model and I can assure you that ethanol gas was used back then to comply with the oxygenated fuel mandate in non-attainment areas, particularly in the midwest region of the USA (Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, those "corn belt" states). EDIT: And some of these states seemed to have laws "encouraging" the use of Ethanol instead of MTBE, prior to the MTBE ban....

My original point is that ethanol fuel has been available for at least 40 years. It would be reasonable to expect a 1998 model bike to be able to run on 10% ethanol fuel and for that to not cause damage to the fuel system.

Hell, I would expect it of a 1988 model bike.

One thing I would also expect is that today's ethanol gas is better than what we had 40 years ago. Technology marches on, and gasoline is no exception.

Referencing manuals instead of actual people who were alive and driving in the 1980s is a strategy that tells me you were either not there or too young to remember. I owned 1980s GM vehicles, I read the manuals (because there was no Internet in those days and life was boring in small town Oregon) and I distinctly remember there were references to Gasohol fuels in the manual. That does not mean actual pump regular unleaded contained ethanol. The pumps containing Gasohol were clearly labeled and you had to make a conscious decision to dispense it in your tank. I knew people who used it constantly and liked it, but most people were afraid of it.

When oil prices crashed in 1986, gasohol started disappearing and by the 90s I never saw it anymore.

In actual inflation adjusted terms, gasoline in 1979/1980 was the most expensive it had ever been, before or since. The idea of gasohol caught on because it was cheaper and also produced less smog, which was a BIG issue in those days for some cities. It was NOT used as an anti-knock additive, MTBE was widely used and the pumps were labeled as containing it.
 
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Referencing manuals instead of actual people who were alive and driving in the 1980s is a strategy that tells me you were either not there or too young to remember. I owned 1980s GM vehicles, I read the manuals (because there was no Internet in those days and life was boring in small town Oregon) and I distinctly remember there were references to Gasohol fuels in the manual. That does not mean actual pump regular unleaded contained ethanol. The pumps containing Gasohol were clearly labeled and you had to make a conscious decision to dispense it in your tank. I knew people who used it constantly and liked it, but most people were afraid of it.

When oil prices crashed in 1986, gasohol started disappearing and by the 90s I never saw it anymore.

In actual inflation adjusted terms, gasoline in 1979/1980 was the most expensive it had ever been, before or since. The idea of gasohol caught on because it was cheaper and also produced less smog, which was a BIG issue in those days for some cities. It was NOT used as an anti-knock additive, MTBE was widely used and the pumps were labeled as containing it.

This entirely contradicts the research papers I found and posted in this thread.

Also, you were in Oregon.

That isn't a state known for growing corn....

Do you suppose that other states which grew (and grow) significant amounts of corn (from which ethanol is derived) may have had legislation that supported or even mandated the use of ethanol in gasoline?

(Hint: Yes, they did, and do).

(This was seen by politicians in corn-growing states as a way to get the votes from, err, I mean, support corn farmers..)

So you can't really generalize what happened in boring small town Oregon to what happened in other states because of differing laws and regulations, and different groups present in the state for various politicians to pander to.
 
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The idea of gasohol caught on because it was cheaper and also produced less smog, which was a BIG issue in those days for some cities. It was NOT used as an anti-knock additive, MTBE was widely used and the pumps were labeled as containing it.

By the way, MTBE is an oxygenate just like ethanol and was used to reduce smog just like ethanol.

Oxygenates like MTBE and ethanol both reduce smog AND are anti-knock additives.

Once upon a time in this part of Virginia, prior to the MTBE ban, MTBE, *not* ethanol, was added to gasoline to reduce smog. (Virginia is a state that doesn't grow much corn..)

Also, ethanol CANNOT be blended with gasoline and sent via pipeline, it has to be added at the fuel tank farm, so it stands to reason that (prior to the MTBE ban) states without large corn agribusiness (like Virginia and presumably Oregon) would prefer to use MTBE (which can be blended and sent via pipeline) instead of ethanol. Additionally, politicians in Virginia and Oregon don't need the votes of Iowa corn farmers.
 
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When oil prices crashed in 1986, gasohol started disappearing and by the 90s I never saw it anymore.

Here is some legislation that became effective in Illinois (one of the largest corn growing states in the USA) on September 1, 1985. This legislation reduced the state tax on "gasohol":

Gasohol will be redefined as "motor fuel which is no more than 90% gasoline and at least 10% denatured ethanol which contains no more than 1.25% water by weight and is obtained from cereal grains or food processed by-products essentially derived from cereal grain." Gasohol will qualify for the lower state tax rate if the denatured ethanol is made from corn, wheat, barley, etc. Ethanol made from coal, wood, sugar cane, and other non-cereal products will not qualify. Gasohol that does not qualify for a reduced sales tax rate is subject to the full 5% state sales tax.

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