Anyone ever give this oil a try?

[garageman402]

What do you look at on the VOA or used oil analysis to tell if it worked as advertised? For example, let's say I want to know how well it meets the requirements of Volkswagen 504 00 approval, as advertised that it does. What parameters of the used oil analysis/VOA would I look at?

More to the point, a $30 used oil analysis/VOA is all that's needed to establish compliance with a manufacturer approval?

You would look at VOAs of both oils and see how they stack up. I wouldn’t use the $25 analysis to determine that, though.

 

[OilReport99]

You would look at VOAs of both oils and see how they stack up

How? What VOA parameters would tell you how they stack up?

 

[CleverUserName]

I've seen posts from representatives of this company, and posts on here from someone who appeared to be "impartial" in an attempt to create interest in Triax products. It appears to be "shilling" or "astroturfing" from a PR group or someone who may have gotten free product in exchange for some positive posts on a public forum.

Nobody has commented on the low oxidation number in the VOA, which indicates very little of any Ester (Easter, LOL) in this formula!

 

[Jetronic]

I would not, too many oils of known quality, to risk using this, until there is more data.

On the back of the bottle it lists "specifications" with manufacturer requirements.

Does that mean approvals?

how do we get more data if nobody should try it before there is more data?

 

[kschachn]

how do we get more data if nobody should try it before there is more data?

If we try it what data are we getting? For example, if I wanted to try it and see how it performs in regards to one of the specifications it says it meets, what would I look for?

 

[Jetronic]

exactly... But I'm not the one asking for more data, or suggesting to wait until more is available.

No oil company shares that data anyway.

 

[kschachn]

exactly... But I'm not the one asking for more data, or suggesting to wait until more is available.

No oil company shares that data anyway.

Well you can look up the requirements for many specifications and approvals in the Afton Specification Handbook where they list the relevant ASTM tests. The oil company then shares the results of those tests via the resulting approval or no approval.

Or they obfuscate on their listings which I guess is the same as not sharing.

 

[spasm3]

how do we get more data if nobody should try it before there is more data?

I would not use it without knowing if it has manufacturer approvals, vs them claiming it meets them.
No real reason at all for me to use it.

 

[garageman402]

If we try it what data are we getting? For example, if I wanted to try it and see how it performs in regards to one of the specifications it says it meets, what would I look for?

I would say wear metals, AW additive depletion, TBN and acid numbers, staying in grade. If you require a 30 (Xw-30) oil, be sure the cst is around 10.

One thing I would look for is "sticking power" to surfaces. I tried a bio-based oil, and I cut apart the filter, the paper didn't have any oil held in it, looked more like oil-stained paper. Other oils left more oil on the filter paper surface, leading me to believe metal surfaces would have more oil on them for protection during start-up.