Anyone ever give this oil a try?

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bfleeman said:
Why don’t you call or email THEM and ask your questions? Seems to be a more productive way of going about getting the answers you’re seeking.
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I not paid to do that. I am telling you that a. they don’t know what they doing b. They are trying to scam customers.
which answers your question whether someone is going to give it a try to this oil.
 
bfleeman said:
Why don’t you call or email THEM and ask your questions? Seems to be a more productive way of going about getting the answers you’re seeking.
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edyvw said:
I not paid to do that. I am telling you that a. they don’t know what they doing b. They are trying to scam customers.
which answers your question whether someone is going to give it a try to this oil.
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Oh....this being based on answers you didn’t get cuz you’re not paid to? Sound logical analysis.
 
My vehicles run on lies... the recommendations from automakers. Seems to be common among all the 'boutique' brands and automakers.. Big deal.

At the price mentioned, not a bad buy for those of us that boycott malwart.

So, if you use it, post some VOA/used oil analysis to see if it works as advertised.
 
Greasymechtech said:
My vehicles run on lies... the recommendations from automakers. Seems to be common among all the 'boutique' brands and automakers.. Big deal.

At the price mentioned, not a bad buy for those of us that boycott malwart.

So, if you use it, post some VOA/used oil analysis to see if it works as advertised.
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What do you look at on the VOA or used oil analysis to tell if it worked as advertised? For example, let's say I want to know how well it meets the requirements of Volkswagen 504 00 approval, as advertised that it does. What parameters of the used oil analysis/VOA would I look at?

More to the point, a $30 used oil analysis/VOA is all that's needed to establish compliance with a manufacturer approval?
 
Look for? the engine isn't grinding apart or oil failing out of spec

The manufacturer approval isn't and end all. I use plenty of oils, intervals, filters, and grades that aren't manufacturer approved. I've seen many mechanical failures with so-called superior advanced OE recommended lubricants.

Maybe if the VW/Audi/BMW/MB specs were so great, they wouldn't have non-stop engine problems. Stick with the OE approval if your live in fear of anything not approved. I don't live in fear of monsters in the closet, boogiemen under the bed, scamdemics, or OE "recommendations".

Other oils that weren't approved that I've used..... MPT, Amsoil, Redline, Torco, Neo, or how soon many forget RLI in a BMW. How did RLI compare to the 'approved oil'? or non-approved Rotella T6 in the VW TDI?

Be afraid... be very afraid... oh so afraid
 
Greasymechtech said:
Look for? the engine isn't grinding apart or oil failing out of spec

The manufacturer approval isn't and end all. I use plenty of oils, intervals, filters, and grades that aren't manufacturer approved. I've seen many mechanical failures with so-called superior advanced OE recommended lubricants.

Maybe if the VW/Audi/BMW/MB specs were so great, they wouldn't have non-stop engine problems. Stick with the OE approval if your live in fear of anything not approved. I don't live in fear of monsters in the closet, boogiemen under the bed, scamdemics, or OE "recommendations".

Other oils that weren't approved that I've used..... MPT, Amsoil, Redline, Torco, Neo, or how soon many forget RLI in a BMW. How did RLI compare to the 'approved oil'? or non-approved Rotella T6 in the VW TDI?

Be afraid... be very afraid... oh so afraid
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"Oil falling out of spec" is your entire criteria? What spec? Grade?

Kinda what I thought your response might be which is a bunch of nothing. It's not really your fault however, since a used oil analysis or VOA is next to worthless in determining what I asked.
 
bfleeman said:
I did. I posted them in the VOA section
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Thanks!! Impressive amount of anti-wear metals. Just wonder how it meets GM Dexos1 Gen2 specs with so much ZDDP? Other oils I have seen with the GM licensing increased the Moly to compensate for lower ZDDP.

I can't find them in the Dexos licensee list, are they under a different name? I am currently using Miles Lubricants (LLC), which is listed. IIRC, Miles used to be licensed under a different name (parent co.?) from Niagra Falls, NY. Do you know if Triax is mfg by a parent company that may be licensed?
 
It can't meet licensed/certified specs.... like Redline, can only be recommended with the meets or exceeds marketing. If the VOA is accurate, then consider it a stout additive package and one only can see if it works well in an engine. Since this oil has a 10cst VOA, it does not smell like a high HTHS euro oil. So, don't whine about their Euro recommendations since this is their so-called US/Asian 5w30. And, I'm not against stepping up a grade for some of the euro oils with some of their known failure points.... So, I'd use the 5w40 in place of a 504 5w30 especially since its just too easy to bolt on a bigger turbo/intake/exhaust and tune for too much more HP. Once tuned, I toss OE recommendations out the window.

Concerning a failure point of an oil.... ANYTHING that changes excessively when compared to any other 'licensed' products. Unlike the fools that only believe in TBN, there are many other overlooked failure points. Might need a better lab than the non ISO certified $25 special that many rely on. The most overused quote here in the used oil analysis section... "TBN looks good so use the oil longer"

BTW, I am no fan of API/ILSAC, imho, has failed the consumer and probably a reason why most automakers make their own requirements.

I think this oil would be a good step up for my 508 requiring engine, which is overboosted/intaked/exhausted for seriously more clutch slipping power, without stepping up to 11-13cst oils(since I normally back off when oil temps hit 220F), and all my Hondas/Toyotas/Mazdas/Hyundais in the driveway.
 
dkryan said:
I had never heard of Triax until now in spite of other BITOG threads on this oil.

Question: can you have TOO much boron and moly in an engine oil?

And it’s sold on Amazon for $27.50 per gallon jug. What raises an eyebrow with me is this claim:
  • “Friction modified; active plating on engine parts; extremely resilient, regenerative layering of Moly & Boron on metals......”
Note- bold highlighting is mine

For Star Trek fans, that sounds like Borg technology.

I’d like to see the VOA on this oil when it comes back. And hopefully a used oil analysis, too.
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We need more power, Scotty! Auxiliary power to the active, regenerative plating!

Sorry, I couldn't help myself... :whistle:
 
Greasymechtech said:
Concerning a failure point of an oil.... ANYTHING that changes excessively when compared to any other 'licensed' products. Unlike the fools that only believe in TBN, there are many other overlooked failure points. Might need a better lab than the non ISO certified $25 special that many rely on. The most overused quote here in the used oil analysis section... "TBN looks good so use the oil longer"
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Agreed, I have used Redline in the past, only to have a used oil analysis condemn it after 4000 miles. Engine condition very important to longer OCIs. I used Herguth Lab (now part of SGS) in Vallejo, CA. I presume it would not be a good idea to use this oil in a catalyst equipped vehicle? Given the high amount of ZDDP?

Greasymechtech said:
If the VOA is accurate, then consider it a stout additive package and one only can see if it works well in an engine.
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I read an article where additional ZDDP added to a low quality oil improved the AW of the oil, but adding ZDDP to a high quality oil actually LOWERED the AW effectiveness. I'm wondering if this is excessive? I would assume (and hope) not, given it was engineered into this product. The article was describing using aftermarket ZDDP additive.

Greasymechtech said:
Since this oil has a 10cst VOA, it does not smell like a high HTHS euro oil. So, don't whine about their Euro recommendations since this is their so-called US/Asian 5w30.
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I'm not looking for Euro recommendations, but I would think the 10cst would hold up due to the fact it is a PAO and shear stable.
 
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