Anyone Deal With Police Harassment???

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Originally Posted By: InfmousCornholio


Now, how long until lawmakers apply that to energy drinks... they haven't yet.


I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Those drinks keep a lot of people from wandering off the road when they're tired. I've witnessed patrolmen at rest stops recommend them to drivers who were getting back on the road looking tired. "They sell them in that machine, right over there....."


To the OP:

I am not a fan of police scrutiny at all. But trying to catch drunk drivers? More power to them. When I want to get "toasty", I make sure I have a ride home, or give myself time to eat and drink water to cool off from my toastiness.

Figure out a better way, because no matter how many "friends" you find on the internet, nobody is going to grab their tiki torches and march down to the station and demand an end to DUI/DWI enforcement.
 
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
Your "holier than though" attitude is not needed. If you don't have my experience, why bother responding?

Your "it's cool to be driving toasty" attitude is similarly not needed. And you have no idea what my experience might or might not be.
 
From someone who can understand to a point, and get off at that time (or later-still hate retail), there is nothing wrong with little eating and drinking. But something simple like a iced tea would be a much better idea (besides, booze is much cheaper at home)

That said, I have lost TWO friends to drunk driving in the last 15 years, and almost lost one last year. It's the reason I rarely drink, and I take others home when needed. I AM that guy that calls in when there is a driver in question in the road. Like at night when it is hard to see people. I was thanked by an officer...as when he pulled someone over, he was heading down that same street his own mom was coming down heading to her job just minutes before she was leaving.....


I'm sorry I have little pity here....you have not had to BURY your friends......

Forget "holier than thou"....


Done with this thread...I am out
 
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Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
Your "holier than though" attitude is not needed. If you don't have my experience, why bother responding?

Your "it's cool to be driving toasty" attitude is similarly not needed. And you have no idea what my experience might or might not be.



You're bleeping right on that one....or any of our experiences are for that matter!!
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Querty-"one or two cocktails" and driving off at bar closing is the classic DWI situation. Impaired driving has been a huge issue for decades, but the 'bar and restaurant lobby' is very strong. I'm older and seen too much of this. You may be an alcoholic or just on your way and that's your issue. I've known a number of 'good guys' who were drunks and they mostly don't live to old age. The 'smart' ones drink at home and stumble off to bed. You should change your drinking pattern-good luck.
 
Driving toasty is not cool. People dying because of that is not cool. Cops are cool to stop this.


I'll chime in with a thought...

The law should provide one BAC value above which is violation. Under that value... You drive away.

I've read a little too much of the Constitution (because of my job) to be wary of "sliding scales" and "appearances" to be comfortable with letting cops decide if at a value below the limit if you are allowed to go. I can't believe this hasn't been a source of litigation and a few state supreme courts cases. I don't want cops "assessing grey areas" of bac or anything related to DWI. They are there to enforce law. Laws should read clearly.

So basically currently in my state from .00bac to the limit, it's up to the cops to acts as all three branches of govt on the roadside? Not cool. Just have a spine and make the legal limit .00000001 and be forthcoming about it. This cute little game of "know the limit" but shhh , p.s., "We can charge you even if not at the limit and basically whenever we want." Is not cool.

We often hear about "big government" in Washington. Waaay off base. Big government is found in local policing and their overly bloated self important image. "I stop kids from skateboarding on curbs in a town of 3,000... I'm a tough guy and need to sit next to the one local bar at night and also deserve a decomissioned MRAP vehicle from the Army".
 
Never in my life have I seen more people drinking and driving than in the US.

I once saw a guy that hang on to his truck door for about 5 minutes before managing to somehow pull himself in, start the engine and probably go end in a ditch or kill someone.

In some other halfass civilized countries if you refuse the breathalyzer test they will detain you and take you to a hospital for blood samples; refusing to give blood for testing is a felony, you can kiss your DL goodbye, it will show up on your record and nobody will hire you for at least 5 years.

Point is: Don't drink and drive...it's better for everyone.
 
Leo99 said:
I don't know the color of your skin or what your drive, but in some towns you just need to be a bit darker and you'll get pulled over for alleged driving violations.


I also live in a suburb of a big city (NYC) and I can relate to the OP (even though I think he's messing with us a little). The NYC police have enough to keep them busy (real crime) so they don't look for reasons to pull people over (usually). Out in the suburbs, where crime rates are lower, the police find reasons to pull people over (NOT JUST DARK SKINNED PEOPLE) to justify their jobs. These 'traffic violations' are also a big source of REVENUE for these small towns and villages. I agree with the OP that the police can become annoying and harrassing in some of these areas.

PS: While nobody should be driving 'toasted'...I don't think I should have to worry about driving home after having 2 or 3 beers and a burger after work.
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Originally Posted By: SumpChump
Driving toasty is not cool. People dying because of that is not cool. Cops are cool to stop this.


I'll chime in with a thought...

The law should provide one BAC value above which is violation. Under that value... You drive away.


I agree. .02 for under 21, .04 for Commercial Drivers' Licenses, and .08 for ordinary citizens (Legislators?
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) implies there's more than science involved in these decisions.

That said, half the above limits should be a "ticket-and-walk" offense, with less harsh penalties, to serve as a warning.

An issue with DUI enforcement is moral tea-totallers jump on board and expand it from its original scope. They bust teenagers partying responsibly (except for being underage) because they "might drive later". I might rob a bank later!

I wish OP had a watering hole near his suburban house so he could walk home. It's dopey that zoning laws are so tight that someone has to travel 10 miles for a drink. Folks don't want "trouble" in their "quiet neighborhood."
 
I drive an 18 wheeler part time, and sometimes I'm running my 26 mile route at night along Route 30 in Central VA from Doswell to King William. If I were a police officer, I could make some busts every night pulling people who are obviously fitshased. OP I,m not saying you're in that condition, but around here an officer can stay busy just pulling over people who are obviously drunk.
 
They will move on very quickly if they suspect nothing. If you are getting pulled over and chatted with they suspect you.

I have done illegal things late at night(accidently mostly) and they simple ask about my consumption which is rarely a beer and move on quickly and let the minor infraction go.
 
Originally Posted By: pbm
Leo99 said:
I don't know the color of your skin or what your drive, but in some towns you just need to be a bit darker and you'll get pulled over for alleged driving violations.


I also live in a suburb of a big city (NYC) and I can relate to the OP (even though I think he's messing with us a little). The NYC police have enough to keep them busy (real crime) so they don't look for reasons to pull people over (usually). Out in the suburbs, where crime rates are lower, the police find reasons to pull people over (NOT JUST DARK SKINNED PEOPLE) to justify their jobs. These 'traffic violations' are also a big source of REVENUE for these small towns and villages. I agree with the OP that the police can become annoying and harrassing in some of these areas.

PS: While nobody should be driving 'toasted'...I don't think I should have to worry about driving home after having 2 or 3 beers and a burger after work.
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Also. After dark, there are 4 kinds of people on the road:

1. Cops
2. Drug dealers
3. Drug users
4. At certain hours.. people coming from/going to work.

That is all.

"When the sun comes up" and from about 4AM steadily onward until "peak" is when "everyone" on the road and you can blend in.. remote possibility: Checkpoints usually happen at night and are most effective when unannounced, and, again.. usually around major holidays. (Me even mentioning this remote possibility is a symptom of how the Internet does not accurately portray reality, gets things off-point and makes moot points a possible source of derailment about nothing.)

I have only ever heard of East Orange NJ doing random checkpoints "just because" and doing things like towing cars for brake lights out, sending families in minivans home on foot without their car maybe out of inspection one month or week before or something like that.. real real petty stuff, the tow truck or three is always parked cloaeby, watch for those.. or on street-sweeping days. Don't DARE fall asleep after work!
 
What a baby, look at all of you coddling this loser from the gutters of Chicago, no wonder he feels entitled to drive "toasty".I bet when he kills your child or wife you'll still sweet talk him.
 
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If you have something to hide or something wrong with you or your stuff, the best thing to do is not drive at night, where there is the highest chance you will be pulled. (Some towns have ordinances that you can't even be on the road past a certain time. I would not want to veer off a highway in some parts of the USA..)

If you HAVE to drive, (work maybe,) then stick to major highways and don't speed. If it's major holiday, check to see if checkpoints are announced. If you are in an area where they announce unannounced checkpoints.. Just take the way you feel there will be the least traffic.

If you are, or are getting caught for DWI, then... no sympathies, as Clevy pointed out. THAT turns into a public safety issue, and it really is, and the "casual drinker" argument CAN BE a blurry line.. I just know that, for all the stuff I do, the tickets I drove away from, the videos I take in absence of a GoPro which also takes videos, I NEVER drive drunk.. and for all the tickets I had, I will NEVER have that one.

Check this out.
 
Originally Posted By: Trotter
If you're gonna drink, don't drive....


Without sounding preachy, I do agree with this.

I sure hope driving while drunk/buzzed/high/low/under influence doesn't become something we are "entitled to" anytime soon.
 
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