He said "many", not "all".
Another blown H/K 2.4 engine
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Which applies to every brand. I don't understand why we need to assign a social status.
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Guys - Been on here 20 years. Not trying to start crap - I appreciate ALL of you.
To put it in Massachusetts terms, I think poor people maintain their vehicles better than folks with money. Having been on both sides and starting from the bottom, that's what I believe.
To put it in Massachusetts terms, I think poor people maintain their vehicles better than folks with money. Having been on both sides and starting from the bottom, that's what I believe.
I have seen the exact opposite here. The people that can't afford a breakdown are the ones that let things go and buy ND oil at the liquer store for $6 a qt but walk right past the super tech at Walmart.
That sucks Chris. But my point is that they will dump that ND oil into anything they own - H/K, Ford, Chevy, Toy,,etc...
The Stinger V6 is one of their more reliable motors, that and my 1.6T are their top reliable ones. Is your wife's Stinger having rear diff issues?
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The only 2.4s with extended warranty are the TGDIs. They are usually the Sport Models-only. All the 2.4 GDIs are not covered in extended warranty...... mine included.
I talked to my friend briefly yesterday and he was quoted $7K for (what I assume is a reman engine) installed. He’s out several thousand more with flat bedding it back north, hotel, airfare, car rental etc…He says he brought it in for several ‘recalls’ but isn’t sure if the ‘KSDS’ was one of them (he’s currently in Florida and will look through paperwork when he gets home). He says he had oil changes every 5K at an indie shop using whatever oil they use (I assume 5w20 since that’s what is spec’d I believe).
My advice to him is to retain an attorney if H/K doesn’t at least pay some goodwill toward this as it’s definitely a manufacturing issue (and not oil grade, OCI etc…) that caused it.
My advice to him is to retain an attorney if H/K doesn’t at least pay some goodwill toward this as it’s definitely a manufacturing issue (and not oil grade, OCI etc…) that caused it.
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If the warranty is expired (calender or mileage) and past recall notices weren't addressed, no lawyer will take the complainant's case.
Any Hyunkia dealership should supply the vehicle owner with a specific reason why the claim was denied.
Any Hyunkia dealership should supply the vehicle owner with a specific reason why the claim was denied.
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126k? There’s no warranty for this. Dealers will go out of business if the consumer expectation is to have things like this paid for. Really, 126k miles is not a small accomplishment for an engine, and it’s remarkable we get them as far as we do.
Now, otoh, this is why I’ve avoided that brand - they are still developing their in-house engineering prowess. Talking to engineers in the biz, H/K require fairly high quality components as they have learned from other automaker’s designs, but the integration of those parts and how the parts interact with each other, is an area they can’t duplicate - they have to learn. I think their products continue to improve and are competitive - but I personally wouldn’t buy a H/K with expectations of super long term robustness. If I want a good shot at 150k, it’s going to be a more narrow list of brands, with an understanding that a lot can go wrong to get there.
I know some guys with H/K products getting up in the miles, and I’ve found interiors and chassis to be up to the task, but high-mileage repairs on these seem higher, and the effort getting to cheap $30 sensors can be high.
126k? There’s no warranty for this. Dealers will go out of business if the consumer expectation is to have things like this paid for. Really, 126k miles is not a small accomplishment for an engine, and it’s remarkable we get them as far as we do.
Now, otoh, this is why I’ve avoided that brand - they are still developing their in-house engineering prowess. Talking to engineers in the biz, H/K require fairly high quality components as they have learned from other automaker’s designs, but the integration of those parts and how the parts interact with each other, is an area they can’t duplicate - they have to learn. I think their products continue to improve and are competitive - but I personally wouldn’t buy a H/K with expectations of super long term robustness. If I want a good shot at 150k, it’s going to be a more narrow list of brands, with an understanding that a lot can go wrong to get there.
I know some guys with H/K products getting up in the miles, and I’ve found interiors and chassis to be up to the task, but high-mileage repairs on these seem higher, and the effort getting to cheap $30 sensors can be high.
There was a class action lawsuit on this engine and the settlement included engine replacements regardless of mileage.
sounds like what happened to this engine....Sorento, not a Sedona as stated in the description.
lots of evidence to suggest that those H-K engines do not respond well to longer oil change intervals.
lots of evidence to suggest that those H-K engines do not respond well to longer oil change intervals.
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Hyundai has an extended 15yr/150000 warranty for a large set of vin. We don’t know why specifically denied however can all agree Hyundai/Kia has or hopefully had flawed engines.
I owned a 1986 Hyundai Excel that I paid $600 for in 1990 (with low miles and needing a new M/T) as a ghetto car for working in ‘disadvantaged’ areas of NYC. Our vehicles were often broken into or vandalized by the ‘disadvantaged’ folks so bringing a nice car to work was foolish. I got a new tranny at a junkyard and a friend and I installed it and I got good use out of that car. It was gutless power wise and used a little oil (about a half quart after 2 or 3k IIRC). I believe many of those blown 1.5L (Mitsubishi designed) engines were due to not checking/ adding oil. I bought a brand new 1992 Sonata which was a decent car until the A/T died at 109K despite ATF Changes every 30K (it wasn’t worth fixing so I donated it). Around 2000 Hyundai started making very good cars IMO as judged by coworkers who were getting 200K+ with average maintenance. As I said our 2008 Elantra was a very good car that I purchased at 28K in 2012 and sold in 2021 with just under 150K….it’ still running for the new owner. Apparently H/K engine issues began when they went to DI in 2011 and possibly only those made at the Alabama plant (although I don’t know that for sure). My point is that H/K is certainly capable of making good engines but allowed their manufacturing issues to go on for too long…similar to Ford keeping the problematic DCT in the Focus from 2012 until the model was killed off in 2019. Both of these examples have hurt the parent company IMO. Would you buy another new H/K after having to pay for a new engine after only 126K….I certainly wouldn’t.
PS: Early in this post I mentioned the vandalization of our cars by the locals in the Bronx….eventually we chipped in and had a fence installed and one night the locals took a stolen car up to the street behind our fenced in lot (which was uphill from our parking lot) and put a cinder block on the gas pedal and sent it flying into the fence. The fence came down on several cars causing damage to them….those were crazy times when ‘crackheads’ were everywhere in the Bronx.
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Would more frequent oil changes (like every 5,000 miles) helped to prevent this, or is it just a design flaw that would have happened regardless of OCI?
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